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Re:Coping with Copilot by LtWorf on Saturday August 20, 2022 @07:46PM (#32536135)
That's how it works in italy. The bad side is that to be an engineer you have to pay a yearly fee as well :D
Re:Coping with Copilot by bigDinosaur on Saturday August 20, 2022 @09:04PM (#32536511)
Being an actual engineer (software) is different to just being a software engineer, and the former is very commonly highly regulated.
Re:Coping with Copilot by WalterBright on Saturday August 20, 2022 @10:26PM (#32536874)
Being an actual engineer myself, I discovered that an official Professional Engineer license has little correlation with competence.
Re:Coping with Copilot by bigDinosaur on Saturday August 20, 2022 @11:37PM (#32537195)
I don't really doubt that, and that's why I'm glad software in general places much less emphasis on licensing than other industries.
Re:Coping with Copilot by LtWorf on Sunday August 21, 2022 @01:55AM (#32537758)
In italy software engineers are actual engineers.
Re:Coping with Copilot by bigDinosaur on Sunday August 21, 2022 @06:59AM (#32538980)
I hope, for the sake of your software industry, that this only relates to calling yourself an engineer, and not to the general practice of software development. If you have to be a licensed engineer to work in software in Italy then that'd be a colossal drag on anything interesting happening in that industry.
Re:Coping with Copilot by 0xCAP on Sunday August 21, 2022 @08:27AM (#32539480)
No, that's not mandatory. Actually, only the big, shitty, consultancy shops (Accenture, Deloitte, etc) look stricly for licensed engineers, mostly because, funnily enough, they're usually hired for much less than the average SWEs. Actually there's kind of a shared feeling in the industry that licensed software engineers are dumbasses.
Re:Coping with Copilot by LtWorf on Sunday August 21, 2022 @06:01PM (#32544903)
They want licensed engineers so they hire them as consultants and pay no sick leave and vacations.

Becoming licensed is mostly needed if you want to work on your own. You pay less taxes but have ZERO safety, so in theory you should earn much more and work for many customers. But those shitty consultancy companies hire consultants and pay them very little.

Re:Coping with Copilot by bigDinosaur on Sunday August 21, 2022 @10:19AM (#32540444)
That's actually really amusing. Thanks for the insight!