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Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by darawk on Saturday August 20, 2022 @01:11AM (#32529285)
> The common current example? A text prompt of "A horse riding an astronaut" without prompt engineering. Though I don't think the successful production of this image will demonstrate intelligence/causal understanding either (but it is a good counter example).

I'm not sure why you think this falsifies intelligence. There are plenty of puzzles and illusions that trick humans. The mere presence of conceptual error is no disproof of intelligence, any more than the fact that most humans get the Monty Hall problem wrong is.

Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by godelski on Saturday August 20, 2022 @01:37AM (#32529433)
Your argument is that there are adversarial cases? Sure... But that's not what I'm even arguing here. There's more nuance to the problem here that you lack an understanding of. I do suggest diving deep into the research to understand this rather than arrogantly make comments like this. If you have questions, that's a different thing. But this is inappropriate and demonstrates a lack of intimate understanding of the field.
Re:John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has ra... by darawk on Saturday August 20, 2022 @04:36AM (#32530408)
I didn't make an argument that there are adversarial cases, you did. You brought up an adversarial example, and said the existence of that example proves these algorithms are not generally intelligent. If that follows, it follows that the existence of adversarial examples for humans proves the same thing about us.

And in general, if you're going to be condescending, you should actually make the counter argument. You might make fewer reasoning errors that way.