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Re:Slow Travel by samuelbalogh on Friday August 19, 2022 @04:30AM (#32518676)
> With no corresponding change to the amount of fuel used to climb up to cruising altitude

Yes, but

1) a plane flying a larger distance has to lift a heavier load of fuel

2) emissions tend to do more damage at high altitude than they do at ground level

so I would not discount the benefits of reducing flight distance as much as possible.

Source: How Bad Are Bananas? by Mike Berners Lee

Re:Slow Travel by conqueso on Friday August 19, 2022 @04:53AM (#32518802)
>emissions tend to do more damage at high altitude than they do at ground level

I've always been a bit dismissive of aviation as a carbon emissions contributor because globally it only accounts for around 2%. Thanks for pointing this out, I was unaware of this fact. Is the relationship between altitude and warming effect known? Are we talking linear or something worse?

Re:Slow Travel by geewee on Friday August 19, 2022 @06:46AM (#32519424)
I think we're still puzzling it out, as there's both radiative forcing and contrails (the vapor, or condensation trails planes emit).

If you check out these two emission factors from the UK government, one taking radiative forcing and contrails into effect and one not:

https://www.climatiq.io/explorer/emission-factor/domestic-fl...

https://www.climatiq.io/explorer/emission-factor/domestic-fl...

You'll see a noticeable difference, (almost a doubling)

Full disclaimer: Work at Climatiq, but the emission factors are not from us directly.

Re:Slow Travel by conqueso on Friday August 19, 2022 @02:00PM (#32524210)
Appreciate the detailed answer - I was unaware that contrails were significant. TIL!
Re:Slow Travel by geewee on Monday August 22, 2022 @01:33PM (#32554603)
You're welcome!
Re:Slow Travel by michaelgrafl on Friday August 19, 2022 @06:28AM (#32519327)
2% is plenty anyway. I mean, we have to start somewhere.