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Re:VPNs on iOS are a scam by dahfizz on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @11:51PM (#32492124)
> You just replaced ISP tracking with VPN tracking.

Yeah, that's the point. People have infinitely more choices for VPN providers than for ISPs. The VPN provider could be in another country. You can even run your own VPN on hosted infra.

Re:VPNs on iOS are a scam by simondotau on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @12:42AM (#32492443)
> You can even run your own VPN on hosted infra.

This comes with its own risks and you lose some advantages of a commercial service, such as being "lost among the crowd" of other VPN users.

Re:VPNs on iOS are a scam by s_ting765 on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @05:47AM (#32494198)
What if you provision a new IP address every other week/month? i.e Assuming the provider allows it and the cost is negligible
Re:VPNs on iOS are a scam by simondotau on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @06:29AM (#32494434)
If your hosting provider makes similar privacy guarantees to a similar VPN provider, then perhaps. For bonus points, use a hosted VM and commercial VPN in serial.

Again though, if the US Government is a potential adversary, there's still risk here. Intelligence services could have a 0-day on your linux distro, or an operative within the hosting company. If they get access, they can turn your hosted VM against you.

Re:VPNs on iOS are a scam by s_ting765 on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @08:30AM (#32495365)
I think you just have to assume there's a possibility that the infrastracture can be compromised at any moment. For both of these two options. Guarantees from providers are valid until the day they are not.

Though a point has to be made about using a hosted VM for VPN purposes, you have some level of control about which specific software, configuration and encryption schemes etc. you want to use for your stack. Only downside is that currently there isn't sufficient hypervisor protection from the host kernel afaik.

However I do agree with you that either way, the risk threshold is too high if you are concerned about high level state actors. Neither commercial VPNs nor hosting providers can solve the "anonymity" problem for you.

Re:VPNs on iOS are a scam by raverbashing on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @11:54PM (#32492137)
> You can even run your own VPN on hosted infra

True. But we know very few people do that

Re:VPNs on iOS are a scam by tsimionescu on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @02:09AM (#32492875)
So now you trust the infra hoster AND their own ISP.
Re:VPNs on iOS are a scam by dahfizz on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @05:52AM (#32494222)
You will always have to trust someone. Having more options when choosing who you trust is a good thing. Does that make sense to you?