> Only Americans would be regularly ordering so much takeout as to worry about scooters not being able to transport it. You really need to reconsider your dietary choices if this is a serious concern.

I’m sorry you felt the need to get snarky. Making assumptions undermines your argument. It’s not hard for the orders for 2 families of light eaters to not fit in a single scooter.

You can easily carry food for 10 people on a scooter unless the packaging is crazy.

This, again, is the norm in Europe.

Why should the average delivery guy be driving a car to be able to accept big orders that probably make up less than 1% of all deliveries?

Actually most of the delivery people here are on bikes, scooters (the motor ones) or electric scooters, I've never seen a car delivery. They are carrying big backpacks like this one https://search.brave.com/images?q=deliveroo+driver+backpack&...

Now I still dislike the services and it's really annoying that they caused this revival of motorscooters who are now driving recklessly on the bike paths, but transport volume is really not an issue.

Where’s “here”? What justifies claiming “most”? I’ve seen lots and lots of car delivery in the US. I’ve seen car delivery in China too. Also Iceland, Mexico and Spain. And I’ve seen scooters in all of those countries. I have no problem with people saying there’s a “lot” of scooters/motorcycles/bikes/whatever, relatively. It might be most, but “most” is a specific and strong claim that may not be true and can’t be backed up, and should be stated as such.

How about you present some evidence to the contrary? I get that you’re probably just trolling, but what you’re doing here is akin to asking for proof that the sky is blue or that most humans have two hands.

I wasn’t talking you to here, and in this case parent was (I assume) talking about scooter usage in the US, so you may in fact be wrong here, according to you (“US and Canada are probably the only places where scooters aren't the norm.”).

I don’t need to present any evidence to the contrary because I didn’t make any claims to the contrary. I’m not claiming scooter usage isn’t high, I didn’t say it’s not more than cars or bikes. I was more careful than that.

You made a strong claim that you can’t back up, and you’ve already admitted that you’re just making up. That’s on you, not me. I’m simply sensitive to people making assumptions and insisting on calling them facts, and that is what you did.

Just like your unfortunate and unnecessary anti-American comments that got you downvoted, you could have ended this by simply acknowledging gracefully that it’s your opinion, and you believe it’s most, rather than continuing to add hyperbole after hyperbole, exaggeration after exaggeration on top. Claiming scooter usage of scooters for food delivery is the same as the sky being blue is a pretty bad analogy, and weakens your point.

Adding an ad-hominem on top accusing me of trolling just becuase you can’t answer my question also reflects poorly on you and tends to undermine what you’re trying to say. It would be so much stronger if you simply qualified your claim as your own belief and left it at that, or did some Googling to find stats. I’m sorry that asking for evidence of what you said upset you so much.

> Just like your unfortunate and unnecessary anti-American comments that got you downvoted

anti-American? Seek help buddy.

> It would be so much stronger if you simply qualified your claim as your own belief and left it at that, or did some Googling to find stats.

Look, my claim is obvious to anyone who isn’t completely out of touch with the world outside of North America.

“Googling to find stats”? There obviously isn’t going to be any meaningful numbers to be found on Google wrt this.

Using cars for food deliveries is a completely ridiculous idea in most cities of the world. There’s no parking! How are you going to deliver food with a car when there’s no free parking?

Shit, what do you think are the odds that a food delivery guy can even afford a car in most of the world? There’s something like 1 billion passenger cars in the world, that leaves you with something like 1 8th of a car per person.

This really is as obvious as “the sky is blue”.

To suggest that you’re trolling is simply the most charitable way to interpret your comment.

That’s an unusually small one too. On scooters you tend to see much bigger rigid boxes, like this https://i.pinimg.com/736x/13/e1/1a/13e11aab642c5589b92ae570f...

By here I mean a large city in Sweden and by most I mean >90%. If you would be here you would see how completely obvious it that scooters and bikes are the majority. My reply was to someone who said that large deliveries could not be done with scooters or bikes. My experience here definitely falsified such a claim.

Sure I do, that’s part of my point. That doesn’t answer the question. Why do you claim “most”?

Because it’s the norm in Europe, in Asia and Africa. Probably Latin America too.

Do you have any data or other backup for your claim besides opinion? You might be right, I’m just curious. Do you know where scooters aren’t the norm? Do you know how often alternatives are used and for what reasons?

US and Canada are probably the only places where scooters aren't the norm. I guess in Kyiv and Bucharest you see a decent amount of deliveries with cars, but those people are mostly driving super cheap LPG vehicles.

Even in Dubai scooters are the norm, despite the city embracing a very American take on urban design.

No, I don't have data to back this up. I don't need to, this is obvious to anyone who has traveled the world. If you read this thread, you will only see Americans talking about food delivered by car.