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Re:Google: Financial Embargo Of WikiLeaks Shows How To Deal ... by nextparadigms on Thursday November 17, 2011 @09:02AM (#3247656)
I was kind of disappointed to hear that from a Google representative. I get the feeling that Google cares only about covering their own asses, so even if Congress votes an "evil" bill like this one, it's not their problem as long as it doesn't affect them directly.

Which is fine, I suppose. You can't expect much more from a corporation. But this is why I wanted an organization like EFF to be present at the hearing. Someone who would actually care about other things, like Internet liberties, besides protecting their own profits.

But those managing the hearing don't seem to care about issues like these at all. All they care about if whether the bill helps protect some jobs on one side (pro-SOPA) or helps destroy others or destroy new businesses (anti-SOPA).

The Internet is much more than a zero-sum game regarding jobs, and the Government shouldn't be in the business of favoring one industry's jobs over the other. Let them deal with their problems themselves, and not use tax payer money to fix their problems, and kill or cripple another industry in the process - without even mentioning all those liberty and censorship issues.

Re:Google: Financial Embargo Of WikiLeaks Shows How To Deal ... by dspillett on Thursday November 17, 2011 @01:11PM (#3248561)
> so even if Congress votes an "evil" bill like this one, it's not their problem as long as it doesn't affect them directly

The "don't be evil" motto doesn't imply Google is going to run around fighting moral causes that don't directly affect them. I get the impression that these days their goal on that front is to be steadfastly amoral rather than pro-actively moral, except where taking a more active stance aids the company's goals.

Re:Google: Financial Embargo Of WikiLeaks Shows How To Deal ... by bh42222 on Thursday November 17, 2011 @02:26PM (#3248870)
Nobody thinks of Switzerland as fighting evil. In general people don't look admirably on neutrality. Even less so when it's neutrality most of the time, but not so neutral when it aids my goals.

Obviously there's nothing wrong with Google being what ever they like, including "evil" withing legal limits.

All I am saying is, they shouldn't be surprised when most people don't admire them.

Re:Google: Financial Embargo Of WikiLeaks Shows How To Deal ... by danilocampos on Thursday November 17, 2011 @02:27PM (#3248873)
> The "don't be evil" motto doesn't imply Google is going to run around fighting moral causes that don't directly affect them.

I think the issue here is more that Google decided to throw a lot of future organizations under the bus by endorsing a different, equally draconian measure that just happens to leave them untouched.

Re:Google: Financial Embargo Of WikiLeaks Shows How To Deal ... by umarmung on Thursday November 17, 2011 @07:19PM (#3249890)
Exactly.

Who is to say that these same measures could not be applied to Google itself in future.

With such statements that amount to political activity by corporate vigilantism, it is going down a slippery slope.

This is the kind of idea that you expect to see endorsed in a Third World country or authoritarian/statist regime, not a supposedly advanced country built on advanced social constructs.

For example, if copyright infringment trumps all other activity in society including whistleblowing and journalism, then this should be enacted in law so that everyone can understand their rights and responsiblities. A group of companies differentially and unilaterally using their corporate or monopoly power to eliminate businesses and organisations is an example of the market creating rules for society instead of the other way around.