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Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by ekianjo on Monday August 15, 2022 @07:29AM (#32468312)
> that their physicality gives them a permanence.

For me it's rather it gives them presence rather than permanence. A book on a shelf is filling a space. It's visible. It's available for anyone to have a look. A book on an eink device is hidden. It's invisible. It's barely accessible. You could have thousands of books on an ebook reader and nobody would know it, because they can't see any of it.

Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by BeFlatXIII on Monday August 15, 2022 @10:38AM (#32470245)
I can have thousands of books on my computer and I won't know it because they're invisible, so I read zero of them.
Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by q7xvh97o2pDhNrh on Monday August 15, 2022 @10:59AM (#32470514)
I have this same problem. I've bought a huge pile of eBooks -- sometimes because I get inspired to "get into" eBooks, and sometimes because I just crave the instant gratification -- but I always, always forget about them.

I wonder what it is about the folks who are able to "get into" eBooks. Logically, I know all the value props -- great for travel and general minimalism, easy to highlight and search highlights, better for the environment, etc, etc -- but, for whatever reason, I just can't get my brain to do the thing.

On balance, I think I'm okay with it. I spend an enormous portion of my real-estate budget on books, and, frankly... what else would I spend it on? That's one of the key things that it's for, if you ask me.

Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by ThrowawayR2 on Monday August 15, 2022 @01:52PM (#32472977)
> "I wonder what it is about the folks who are able to "get into" eBooks."

I primarily use e-readers for reading pop fiction. I'm not bothered by their lack of physicality or impermanence for the same reason I don't have a problem with the impermanence of broadcast television; it's mass-market content meant to be enjoyed and forgotten.

Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by q7xvh97o2pDhNrh on Monday August 15, 2022 @04:36PM (#32475028)
Oh, that makes sense. I've never viewed books in this way -- or consumed that kind of book, really -- so I guess it was just a blind spot for me.

Thanks! One small part of the great mystery of the human condition, resolved. ;)

Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by stinkytaco on Monday August 15, 2022 @11:41AM (#32471086)
> I wonder what it is about the folks who are able to "get into" eBooks.

If you view a book as a one time use, disposable good, it's not hard. That sounds far more disrespectful than I mean it, but if you're the type of reader that's reading many things for pleasure (possibly multiple books a week) and will likely only read them once, they become more like I might view a TV show: something I want to consume conveniently and not necessarily catalog permanently. In that case, eBooks are great.

Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by BeFlatXIII on Wednesday August 17, 2022 @10:17AM (#32496730)
I find that online bookmarks and highlighting, even for web pages, often may as well be trashed. My memory is far too visual: out of sight = out of mind. A cabinet with a closed door that contains rarely-used goods? I may as well have thrown them out.
Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by q7xvh97o2pDhNrh on Monday August 15, 2022 @11:06AM (#32470629)
Beyond the presence and the permanence, there's also an interactivity that I love -- and that no eReader can even come close to.

I usually take a highlighter and a pen to most books these days. Interesting passages get marked up; the margins are perfect for capturing the related thought, realization of a tie-in to another book, and whatever else; and the growing forest of dog-ears helps me find my way back to harvest all the notes later.

(I'm actually really bad at going back and harvesting the notes into a useful digital format -- but I guess the presence of all of them on my bookshelf gives a nice safety blanket, you know? They're there, waiting for me.)

Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by stinkytaco on Monday August 15, 2022 @11:38AM (#32471052)
In my line of work I get asked about the future of books with some regularity. I've got a canned, slightly jokey response by this point, but one thing I point out is that the UI of a book is really very good. Part of it is that we've got a lifetime of experience interacting with it from a very young age, but books can be browsed easily, annotated, and scanned quickly. They have an excellent screen and are easy on the eyes and are quite responsive (generally slow load times in regular use). The search is lacking, but there are generally adequate workarounds for that.
Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by abc_lisper on Monday August 15, 2022 @04:35PM (#32475021)
This is the thing I miss most with a kindle. The flipping of pages, random seek to a approximate page etc. It is very useful to look back at headings, sections and figures.
Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by noduerme on Monday August 15, 2022 @07:48AM (#32468466)
True too. I have probably 20 books queued on my e-reader but I still would rather grab books off the shelf at the end of the night ...and then find myself back in them for days
Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by april_22 on Monday August 15, 2022 @09:58AM (#32469764)
And this seems true for many people. No one I know has sticked with their e-reader and Google searches for 'Kindle' have also only been decreasing the past years.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=kindle

Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by wyre on Monday August 15, 2022 @12:36PM (#32471868)
I thought maybe ‘ereader’ could show increased usage as the market has expanded, but It has even flatter trend line.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=kindle,e...

Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by sundvor on Monday August 15, 2022 @10:12AM (#32469920)
After I got my Gen 11 PWSE on release last year I've been using it nearly daily.

The warm, larger display is a game changer for me.

Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by buro9 on Monday August 15, 2022 @10:21AM (#32470015)
> Gen 11 PWSE

What does this mean?

Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by efficax on Monday August 15, 2022 @11:01AM (#32470542)
Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition
Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by slothtrop on Monday August 15, 2022 @09:53AM (#32469699)
I actually dislike the space-filling aspect, but greatly prefer a physical book. Any chance there's an alternative to a screen that delivers what you want, I say take it.
Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by Beldin on Monday August 15, 2022 @02:26PM (#32473414)
If you prefer physical books, join the library. Around here, it's really cheap (or even free, I forgot) for kids. Which is great!... till you turn 18. The adult fare is less government-sponsored and would need a regular reading habit to make it worthwhile. I like reading, but don't have any regularity.
Re:The value of owning more books than you can read (2018) by slothtrop on Monday August 15, 2022 @03:01PM (#32473795)
I do intend to get my membership again. With current goings on I'm so busy that I just buy used books to read at my own pace, then sell back. Mind you that could remain the same indefinitely. You also need updated proof of residence to get your card.