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Re:The layoffs at Klarna by PheonixPharts on Sunday August 14, 2022 @01:02PM (#32460851)
At least in tech there are people who have had decade+ long careers where it was very feasible to never work for a company that actually made more money than it spent. I've been at multiple startups that had VCs pressure leadership not to make profit because that would hurt growth of some other KPI of interest (users, revenue etc).

In the last few year many of these people have seen these companies go public, and their imaginary Options/RSUs suddenly turn to liquid assets. Company hasn't started making profits, P/E is negative, but TC has gone up by 50%-200%. That certainly feels like success.

Looking back at my own career the companies that made the least profit (including negative) are the ones that have paid me the most.

I'm old enough to remember the pre-dotcom bust chats of "new economy" and "things are different now", and how all of the stuffy old finance people who thought businesses should make more than they spend where ultimately proven correct.

For many people, even in their late 30s, the ability for a company to actually make more than it spends has been an academic curiosity, hardly relevant to the success of a company.

Re:The layoffs at Klarna by orzig on Sunday August 14, 2022 @01:15PM (#32460964)
Agreed, and the opposite is true: I started at a small public company which had stopped growing and become profitable. It was targeted for a hostile takeover by PE who thought it could grow more.

To their credit it did, and (to the extent your willing to believe unaudited financials) again became profitable.

Re:The layoffs at Klarna by toomuchtodo on Sunday August 14, 2022 @01:18PM (#32461003)
The stock and exuberance are the product.
Re:The layoffs at Klarna by logifail on Sunday August 14, 2022 @01:43PM (#32461246)
> The stock and exuberance are the product.

I've worked at places where the slide decks were always full of exuberance. At one of them they were exuberant right up until the moment the staff found themselves locked out of the offices after being told that a liquidator was in charge.

It's not pretty.

Re:The layoffs at Klarna by toomuchtodo on Sunday August 14, 2022 @02:09PM (#32461468)
Same!