News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by rahen on Sunday August 14, 2022 @04:15AM (#32457463)
> it would be wise to invest in a world where we move more towards these superior modes of transportation

This simply is pre-WWII urban planning. We used to have sustainable cities and comprehensive passenger rail systems before we teared them down for cars and suburbia.

Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by dzhiurgis on Sunday August 14, 2022 @04:36AM (#32457569)
For better or worse we used to have 4x less people
Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by bawolff on Sunday August 14, 2022 @05:29AM (#32457817)
I dont see how it matters. Its not like we have run out of room. Just have 4x the number of small neighbourhood grocery stores
Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by arise on Sunday August 14, 2022 @10:56AM (#32459787)
We're running out of something though, or some combination of things. Otherwise you wouldn't have such accelerating inequality and popular unrest.
Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by wyre on Sunday August 14, 2022 @11:44AM (#32460195)
Ya, we’re running out of wealth mobility. No one can afford houses because corporations vacuum up all the money.
Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by bawolff on Sunday August 14, 2022 @03:24PM (#32462130)
Vs pre-ww2 where all the peasents could easily afford real estate?
Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by wyre on Monday August 15, 2022 @12:30PM (#32471771)
The population of the US has nearly tripled since then and the GDP has grown almost 2000%; more than 1500% if looking at real GDP [1]. There should be far more wealth equality now but there isn’t.

[1]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1031678/gdp-and-real-gdp...

Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by bawolff on Monday August 15, 2022 @10:37PM (#32478640)
The 1920s was very famous for wealth inequality, so im not sure that's true.

With a quick google i found this graph https://www.cbpp.org/wealth-concentration-has-been-rising-to... which suggests that the present is much more unequal than the 1970s, but still hasn't risen to the level of inequality from the pre WW2 era.

Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by stephen_g on Sunday August 14, 2022 @04:42AM (#32457600)
The solution to that, in hindsight, was probably not building the majority of new housing in sprawling, low-density suburbs that require a car to get most places people want to go though…
Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by rahen on Sunday August 14, 2022 @04:48AM (#32457631)
Which is why industrialized countries with higher population density move back even faster to pre-WWII urban planning (EU), or sometimes never left it (Japan).
Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by occz on Sunday August 14, 2022 @04:30AM (#32457538)
Yes indeed.

The fact that conservatives broadly have taken the position supporting of cars and car-oriented development is one of the most absurd things imaginable. Socialized inefficient infrastructure that was not even a thing a hundred years ago being considered a conservative policy, a real hoot.

Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by ghoward on Sunday August 14, 2022 @08:27AM (#32458682)
I'm not sure how much of this is true.

I'm a conservative, and I would love to have more walkable/bikeable cities and to not need a car.

Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by occz on Sunday August 14, 2022 @09:38AM (#32459137)
>I'm not sure how much of this is true.

I'll admit to this not being an opinion I hold based on any kind of scientific observation, this does seem to be an opinion I have anecdotally observed among rural- and suburban-populations, which tend to lean more towards the conservative political spectrum than their urban counterparts.

>I'm a conservative, and I would love to have more walkable/bikeable cities and to not need a car.

Kudos.

Re:Electric vehicles are way more energy-efficient than inte... by throwaway894345 on Sunday August 14, 2022 @11:11AM (#32459907)
I’m not a conservative, but the independence that cars provide holds a certain appeal and aligns fine with conservative values. Anyway, conservatives happily embrace new technology all the time (almost all conservatives have a smartphone and an Internet connection, and those developments are much more recent than cars); adopting cars isn’t a contradiction at all—clinging to trains and bikes would be the contradiction.