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Re:Multiple sclerosis has a common viral culprit, opening do... by smeej on Saturday August 13, 2022 @11:25PM (#32456052)
I have Klippel-Feil Syndrome, presenting with a forward- and right-rotated C5/6 block vertebra.

Not only is that rotation only treatable by a chiropractor, but specifically a Pierce chiropractor, trained in posterior to anterior adjustment is needed.

Otherwise the prognosis is, "You're going to be hunched over so severely you can't look anybody in the eyes by your mid-40s, and you won't be able to walk 20 years after that."

Definitely not trying to argue with you. Just suggesting there might be a whole range of niche things you're not aware of but do exist, and for which specific types of chiropractic manipulation of the positions of the vertebrae themselves is the only treatment.

Re:Multiple sclerosis has a common viral culprit, opening do... by wnolens on Sunday August 14, 2022 @12:06AM (#32456225)
As a long time chiro-goer, I've noticed that some chiropractors use the lower bar to entry "doctor" label to appear experts in other fields like nutrition or mental health. But one can obviously steer clear of those.

My chiropractor is a physical therapist, sports massage therapist and traditional chiropractor in one. Very often I NEED some spinal adjustments to give me the range of motion back to do the exercises they prescribe to improve my issues long term. The effect is immediate and obvious.

Those that claim it's pure quackery just don't need their services, or are too stubborn and would rather die in the "but it's not sufficiently peer reviewed!" hill than receive some relief for their musculoskeletal issues.

Re:Multiple sclerosis has a common viral culprit, opening do... by actually_a_dog on Sunday August 14, 2022 @12:42AM (#32456393)
This is exactly right. Run far away from a chiropractor who claims to be able to treat anything other than muscloskeletal issues. Within their actual scope of practice, a chiropractor can sometimes work miracles. My mom goes to one frequently and it helps her immensely.
Re:Multiple sclerosis has a common viral culprit, opening do... by prox on Sunday August 14, 2022 @03:59AM (#32457386)
Your experience is a good reason for why we should never generalize. The common word is that chiropractics is a sham (and maybe there is truth to that) and then there is someone like you whose only options I assume is this treatment (and that is truthful as well)

It makes me think we shouldn’t be quick to judge if actually don’t work in the field or related.

Anyway I hope you have good results and a healthy outcome.

Re:Multiple sclerosis has a common viral culprit, opening do... by throwawaylinux on Sunday August 14, 2022 @05:09AM (#32457728)
You can certainly generalize, and chiropractics is a sham, but if there is some placebo effect or it makes people happy then fine so long as people are well informed then they can choose to go to these quacks if they like. The problem is person having a serious and undiagnosed neurological problem is referred to a chiropractor by an alleged real medical doctor.

Would you feel the same way if a doctor referred a depressed person to see an astrologist or psychic medium or a church? You will easily find thousands of anecdotes from people attesting to those helping them, and you might even find they could statistically help some peoples' mental health whether by placebo or giving them someone to talk to or a group to be part of.

Re:Multiple sclerosis has a common viral culprit, opening do... by prox on Sunday August 14, 2022 @07:35AM (#32458415)
Did you read the parent comment I responded to? Here is someone who is specifically helped by chiropractics. So that it doesn’t work on let’s say 95% doesn’t mean that 5% gets a genuine improvement. The thing is just better knowledge of what chiropractics is useless for and when it makes a genuine difference.

Generalizing that all is a quack/placebo doesn’t help move us forward in such a case. The end conclusion is better information and dissemination to doctors and health practitioners so they know when to refer.

Re:Multiple sclerosis has a common viral culprit, opening do... by throwawaylinux on Sunday August 14, 2022 @07:39AM (#32458436)
Yes I did, and I disagree with you. Did you read my comment? Anecdotes don't mean that you can't generalize the idea that medical professionals should not refer patients to quacks. If chiropractics has some placebo effect or other effect in some specific cases does not make it okay to refer this serious undiagnosed nerve problems to them, that's just ludicrous.
Re:Multiple sclerosis has a common viral culprit, opening do... by prox on Sunday August 14, 2022 @11:49AM (#32460232)
Sure I agree with that.
Re:Multiple sclerosis has a common viral culprit, opening do... by tsol on Monday August 15, 2022 @01:14AM (#32466105)
There is a reason a MD referred him to a chiropractor. That's common practice. You may not believe in them but MDs do.