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Re:Tell HN: Unpaid home assignments are not ok by bluGill on Friday August 12, 2022 @08:50AM (#32437748)
I have never seen a license or formal certificate that means anything useful. I'm open to the idea, but the burden is on those providing them to prove they are useful.

We do have apprenticeships in programming, we just don't call it that name. You start out at the bottom of the ladder and more senior people help you learn. Most medium and sized and bigger companies have some variation of that. Sure you can start as the only programmer in a small company and thus not get mentored, but you still learn on the job like an apprentice.

Re:Tell HN: Unpaid home assignments are not ok by ryandrake on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:23AM (#32439945)
> I have never seen a license or formal certificate that means anything useful.

They are useful in that they at least convey a tiny bare minimum level of skill--something many, many software engineering candidates lack. Passing the bar exam for lawyers and the medical board exam for doctors signals at least some minimal knowledge and qualification. They don't tell you the professional's whole story, but enough to allow you to skip the "Where is the patient's knee?" interview questions.

Software desperately need at least some "barest minimum" gate that lets interviewers at least skip the Fizzbuzz questions.

Re:Tell HN: Unpaid home assignments are not ok by ghaff on Friday August 12, 2022 @12:56PM (#32441167)
I'd agree with that. Though obviously getting certified in law or medicine is a significantly higher bar than passing some tech industry certification.

Still, if I need someone who knows Linux, something like a current RHCE tells me they have at least some minimal level of competency. (Certs seem to be more of a thing for sysadmin knowledge than general programming however.)