Re:Wikimedia supports American Censorship Day
by willyt on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @11:10AM
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Here's an idea, Wikipedia could redirect to "Sorry this site is not accessible due to an enforcement action under the Stop Online Piracy Act. (This is a test)" That would start a debate in the mainstream pretty quickly...
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Re:Wikimedia supports American Censorship Day
by dapyx on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @11:30AM
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They did something like that for a day on Italian Wikipedia when they discussed in the Italian Parliament a law which, in the case when someone is offended (even if the facts are true!), if a website doesn't respond in 48 hours to the request of removal, the website would have been given a 10,000 euro fine.
Re:Wikimedia supports American Censorship Day
by toyg on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @11:54AM
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And it was quite successful, the law was basically mothballed.
Re:Wikimedia supports American Censorship Day
by nextparadigms on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @11:22AM
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They could just use the embedded code from americancensorship.org that http://techdirt.com seems to be using as well. It seems pretty effective (and scary) to me.
Re:Wikimedia supports American Censorship Day
by neilk on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @11:35AM
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It was proposed to the English Wikipedia community (late yesterday) and as of now I don't think we have consensus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposa...
By my reckoning, so far at least half the commenters think this would break the "Neutral Point of View" policy. I personally disagree with that, but as an employee of the WMF it's not my place to tell them what to do.
Re:Wikimedia supports American Censorship Day
by chc on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @01:58PM
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Wikipedia editors have to be one of the most frustrating groups I've ever encountered. They typically have all the charm and practicality of a government bureaucracy without the helpfulness. It's like there's a competition among them to find some way the rules can be interpreted as banning anything anybody suggests.
Re:Wikimedia supports American Censorship Day
by gbelote on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @02:13PM
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Was the Italian protest something voted for by the community?
Re:Wikimedia supports American Censorship Day
by neilk on Thursday November 17, 2011 @12:49AM
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It was agreed upon by the community of the Italian Wikipedia.
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Comma...
Note: the Wikipedia community does not usually put things to a vote. They discuss and seek consensus. Although they sometimes do use icons to indicate their position and to get a rough sense of where everyone stands.
Re:Wikimedia supports American Censorship Day
by compman775 on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @03:40PM
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If this law really is bad, why would it be a problem for Wikipedia to not be neutral about it?
Re:Wikimedia supports American Censorship Day
by gojomo on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @04:49PM
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I think the bill is awful. I think WMF is right to stand against it.
But for Wikipedia itself, either you're committed to the duty of remaining neutral, even on important issues and issues with overwhelming sentiment on one side, or you're not.