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Re:Xbox has accused Sony of paying Game Pass 'block fees' to... by Barrin92 on Thursday August 11, 2022 @07:45PM (#32433202)
by acting as a collective mechanism to pursue interests of individual consumers. Trivial example, Apple shutting down Facebook's ad tracking, which is almost certainly an interest of Apple users they could not individually pursue.

In fact the government is nothing else but a very large version of this, a big monopolist who solves a collective action problem.

Re:Xbox has accused Sony of paying Game Pass 'block fees' to... by cercatrova on Thursday August 11, 2022 @07:48PM (#32433223)
But a monopolist could do anything they want, and often do, that is not in the benefit of the consumer. For example, Standard Oil. Or Microsoft bundling a browser and killing Netscape. Or even Apple, that now is looking into running their own ad business after killing their competitors. Some of these may look good for consumers in the short term, but make no mistake, monopolies are not good for consumers.
Re:Xbox has accused Sony of paying Game Pass 'block fees' to... by Barrin92 on Thursday August 11, 2022 @08:00PM (#32433306)
they can't do anything they want because they still face the risk of replacement. Monopolistic competition is the dominant form of activity in innovative economies, temporarily outsized profits scale enable innovation and long term planning. (which benefits consumers)

MySpace in 2007 had 80% of social network traffic, turns out it could not do what it wanted. Advanced tech economies generally consist of monopolists replacing each other, not bazaar economies.

Re:Xbox has accused Sony of paying Game Pass 'block fees' to... by blackoil on Friday August 12, 2022 @12:09AM (#32434623)
MySpace isn't a good example because it was early in a growing and changing space. Better example are Windows, duopoly of iOS and Android.

It may still be possible to beat a monopoly by being extremely good and aggressive right on time when your competitor is napping. e.g. Firefox and Chrome vs IE. If IE team hadn't been dismantled and added tabs and other UI features, worked on performance and security improvement, we may have been using IE 25.

Re:Xbox has accused Sony of paying Game Pass 'block fees' to... by barneygale on Thursday August 11, 2022 @09:42PM (#32433920)
> they can't do anything they want because they still face the risk of replacement

Less risk than if they weren't monopolies, which is the entire point.

Re:Xbox has accused Sony of paying Game Pass 'block fees' to... by cercatrova on Thursday August 11, 2022 @09:29PM (#32433853)
> they can't do anything they want because they still face the risk of replacement

Not necessarily, especially if the switching cost is too high. For example, if Microsoft does something monopolistic, which they had done, people aren't going to switch to Linux. Therefore the government had to step in.

Re:Xbox has accused Sony of paying Game Pass 'block fees' to... by Volundr on Thursday August 11, 2022 @07:53PM (#32433257)
Except there is no guarantee they use that collective power for the customer's benefit. See: basically any actual monopoly (Apply isn't), including power and internet monopolies.
Re:Xbox has accused Sony of paying Game Pass 'block fees' to... by kmeisthax on Thursday August 11, 2022 @08:40PM (#32433564)
Aaaaand that's the reason why monopoly law actually exists. There's no democratic control over corporations so they should not wield power like governments do.

Shareholder democracy does not count.