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Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by rachet on Thursday August 11, 2022 @09:46AM (#32425458)
When I had a vehicle with OnStar, I located where its antennae connected to the controller and disconnected it. The vehicle was fine, nothing else was impacted. It just couldn't communicate with anything anymore.

I originally removed the power, but then most of the "smarter" electronics stopped working.

Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by catchnear4321 on Thursday August 11, 2022 @09:52AM (#32425553)
A hardware toggle provided by the manufacturer would be a lot more respectful of the customer. That sort of respect would even get some subscriptions out of it. But that probably goes against the long term strategy for most places - that connection is for more, later.

How hard was it to disconnect, out of curiosity. Not asking for anything identifying, just wondering if it required removing panels or was just a matter of reaching an arm in the right spot.

Nice to know it can be done without anything too drastic.

Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by linster on Thursday August 11, 2022 @09:54AM (#32425610)
"I've cut the antennas out of hardware that is part of a subscription software package I'm still paying for"
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by neogodless on Thursday August 11, 2022 @11:28AM (#32427218)
On Star is both equipment and a subscription to use it. They mean the vehicle was equipped... with the equipment. Not that they were paying for the subscription. The "mandatory" subscription is a new announcement, and does not apply to previously purchased vehicles.
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by kube-system on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:22AM (#32426066)
Onstar remains connected (but paywalled) even when you don’t pay.
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by hombre_fatal on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:18AM (#32425999)
Why not write a reply with your voice instead of just trying to rephrase what they said?
Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by mynameisvlad on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:46AM (#32426512)
They're not.

They're quite obviously pointing out that cutting the antenna does nothing about the fact that the subscription is still bundled and active.

Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by hombre_fatal on Thursday August 11, 2022 @12:19PM (#32428003)
As the other two comments point out, you can have the equipment without the software activated. So their guess/"quote" makes an incorrect assumption.

So, what value does it add? It seems to simply exist to make an assumption that makes the other HNer look bad.

Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by mynameisvlad on Thursday August 11, 2022 @12:25PM (#32428091)
This thread is about GM forcibly bundling OnStar into a bunch of their cars. Removing the antenna does nothing to prevent that.

Whether you activate the subscription or not, you're still paying $1500 for it.

Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by hombre_fatal on Thursday August 11, 2022 @12:53PM (#32428573)
Their story doesn't really apply here. Fair enough.

My issue is more with 4chan greentext being a low form of communication.

Almost anything is better than it, like "Well, you'd still be paying the subscription." Even direct snark feels higher level than greentext-style rephrasing.

Re:GM makes $1,500 subscription mandatory on GMC, Buick, Cad... by LeifCarrotson on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:56AM (#32426708)
The problem is that you can disconnect the antenna, but you'll still be billed $1500 for the subscription, regardless of whether you use it or not.