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Re:The Case for Degrowth by brutusborn on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:48PM (#32421355)
What would "economics that doesn't assume you can always go around the world taking other nations resources" look like? You seem to be criticizing a current solution to a problem without suggesting an alternative solution.

Edit since I'm getting downvotes: I'll take a stab and hopefully someone will correct me. Do you mean a return to Mercantilism? If we can't have immigration because that is 'taking another nations resources,' then we must end up with some kind of Protectionism or Mercantilism? Or are you proposing a World Government?

Re:The Case for Degrowth by nicbou on Thursday August 11, 2022 @03:35AM (#32422622)
There is no obligation to supply an alternative solution. Engineering taught me to define a problem without thinking of a solution, because it restricts your thinking.

That the person above didn’t bring a solution does not invalidate their statement. Immigration is only a solution for those getting the immigrants. It’s not so nice for the countries that raise and educate them without any ROI.

Re:The Case for Degrowth by brutusborn on Friday August 12, 2022 @08:01AM (#32437171)
There's no obligation, but criticising the stutus quo without supplying an alternative is just stating that things are bad. Talking about how bad things are is pointless; why not talk about what could make things _better_?

If somethings broken and you can't fix it, then you either learn how to fix it or you need to accept that it is broken and move onto something you can fix.

P.s. I really like the engineering analogy, but remember when discussing politics: other people have probably already defined the problem and come up with solutions. As a citizen, we need to choose which solution is best; or promote our own solution.

Re:The Case for Degrowth by neilwilson on Thursday August 11, 2022 @02:25AM (#32422214)
We already have mercantilism.

That's what 'export led growth' is. It just works by hoarding money as 'foreign reserves', rather than using protectionism.

The entire world can't be using 'export led growth'. There has to be net importers to balance it out. Which currently are the US and the UK - the current and previous imperial nations.

Re:The Case for Degrowth by pauldenton on Thursday August 11, 2022 @01:09PM (#32428788)
Economics where you cannot go around taking other nations human resources looks like Japan. A closed system