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Re:Why does anything exist? by caloriesdont on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @03:32PM (#32417282)
> Specifically, if the universe is everything that there ever is or ever will be, how can it be contingent upon something external to itself?

It would be contingent upon a necessary foundation within the universe.

So there is one specific part in the universe that is necessary, and everything else around that is contingent.

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Re:Why does anything exist? by cpr on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @03:38PM (#32417348)
It can't be contingent on something necessary within itself. Within means being part of the contingency.
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Re:Why does anything exist? by caloriesdont on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @03:53PM (#32417517)
Hmm, I don't see the problem -

Everything in the universe is contingent, except for one thing which is necessary. Everything relies on that necessary foundation.

What's the issue?

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Re:Why does anything exist? by andyjohnson0 on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:07PM (#32417678)
> Everything in the universe is contingent, except for one thing which is necessary. Everything relies on that necessary foundation.

How do you know this?

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Re:Why does anything exist? by smitty1e on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:27PM (#32417939)
How do we know anything, and how do we deem the human mind a suitable tool for ascertaining the result?

At some point I understood that faith is orthogonal to the mind, and the tension was lowered.

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Re:Why does anything exist? by kbelder on Friday August 12, 2022 @12:12PM (#32440618)
Fine, but don't go into conversation and state your object of faith is a fact.
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Re:Why does anything exist? by smitty1e on Friday August 12, 2022 @05:11PM (#32443966)
I repeat:

> faith is orthogonal to the mind

Conflating the two is intellectually dishonest, in addition to commonplace.

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