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Re:Why aren't smart people happier? by cannaceo on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @02:43PM (#32416645)
My experience has been that when you go to call in these favors you get to encounter that person's boundaries. Often their boundaries are that they don't like to help in the same way that they ask for help.
Re:Why aren't smart people happier? by landryraccoon on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:12PM (#32417759)
I don’t see what the problem is. If you have helped someone a lot, and then call in a favor and the ghost you, you didn’t lose a friend. You lost a parasite.

It’s like when you lend money to someone and they avoid you to never pay you back. Depending on the amount that can be money well spent.

Re:Why aren't smart people happier? by matheusmoreira on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:24PM (#32417897)
> I don’t see what the problem is.

The problem is the transaction is unbalanced. They got help when they needed and refused to help when called upon. Someone took more than they gave and there's no real way to address the issue so the only sensible thing to do is to avoid putting oneself in such a position in the first place.

Re:Why aren't smart people happier? by necovek on Sunday August 14, 2022 @01:53PM (#32461325)
It's not a "transaction", it's a relationship: they are never perfectly balanced.

It's also hard to measure one's contribution in a relationship (hey, maybe they were a really good listener; or maybe they can't find time to help you move, but when your kids get sick, they'll move the world to get the best possible care for them?), so let's not go and introduce quick-and-simple rules for what definitely are relations on a case-by-case basis.

Re:Why aren't smart people happier? by matheusmoreira on Sunday August 14, 2022 @08:38PM (#32464557)
Yes, it is hard. It's okay if it's a little unbalanced. Thing is a lot of altruistic people end up getting stuck in a pattern they're there for everyone but nobody is there for them. That seriously hurts.
Re:Why aren't smart people happier? by landryraccoon on Friday August 12, 2022 @02:32PM (#32442300)
Yeah, I agree. It's a problem with the world. But it's not generally a problem you can solve.

The problem that you solve is information. You don't know who's trustworthy and who isn't. If I can give a small amount of help to someone in exchange for knowing if they are trustworthy or not, that's probably worth it.

The people that reciprocate you can keep in your life and they become valuable friends. I am more than happy with the tradeoff of sometimes giving people some help that they don't reciprocate in exchange for finding the ones that will.

Re:Why aren't smart people happier? by matheusmoreira on Sunday August 14, 2022 @08:42PM (#32464587)
> If I can give a small amount of help to someone in exchange for knowing if they are trustworthy or not, that's probably worth it.

That's a life skill I had to learn. I was raised believing that if I was a good altruistic person all that goodness would come back to me. Well, way too many times it didn't and it was extremely frustrating until I figured out how to deal with it.

Sometimes it's okay to be selfish. It stops people from taking advantage.

Re:Why aren't smart people happier? by kinos on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:37PM (#32418072)
Maybe stop having transactional friendships?
Re:Why aren't smart people happier? by matheusmoreira on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:48PM (#32418229)
Sure, I'd love to have real friendships where friends stay by my side through the good and bad times. Unfortunately it turned out to be difficult to make good friends like that. So I've decided to never do anything that leads to these expectations and "you owe me" situations.