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Re:Most Americans support using the popular vote to decide U... by hef19898 on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @08:59AM (#32411170)
See, that is why I don't like first principle. It is just arrogant and ignores complete fields of study. In your example, hundreds of years of political studies and actual experience. Democracy is the owrst political system, except for all the others. It is also the only system that has the slightest chance of protecting civil rights, human rights and to considering a tad more than just the interesst of a powerful majority.
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Re:Most Americans support using the popular vote to decide U... by adrian_b on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @09:14AM (#32411370)
Democracy, means that the political power is not restricted to a subset of the citizens, but all citizens have equal political power.

This principle does not specify anything about the mechanism that determines how certain executive or legislative positions are filled.

Any such position could be filled for example based on the result of a majority voting by all citizens, or by representatives of all citizens, or based on a random choice between all citizens.

These and also many other possible mechanisms are all equally democratic, because any citizen can fill those positions and all citizens have equal influence on who will fill the position.

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Re:Most Americans support using the popular vote to decide U... by canjobear on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @09:56PM (#32420728)
> Democracy, means that the political power is not restricted to a subset of the citizens, but all citizens have equal political power.

On what basis do you claim it means that?

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Re:Most Americans support using the popular vote to decide U... by hunglee2 on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @10:04AM (#32412148)
great nuance, we need more of this understanding of democracy. It is much more (or less for that matter) than just electioneering
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Re:Most Americans support using the popular vote to decide U... by hunglee2 on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @09:50AM (#32411911)
> Democracy is the owrst political system, except for all the others

not only objectively impossible to measure but there is no evidence for this. It's Churchillian cliche which has now become a thought-destroying mantra.

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