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Re:Man arrested for promoting jury nullification wins federa... by throwaway0a5e on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @07:45AM (#32396570)
I think one of our greatest failures as a species is that we have yet to architect a society in which these sorts of double standards of personal belief have sufficient consequences to prevent people from engaging in them with the fervor and frequency that they do.
Re:Man arrested for promoting jury nullification wins federa... by CrazyPyroLinux on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @09:31AM (#32397579)
I think one of our greatest failures as a species is the hubris of _thinking_ that we can "architect a society"
Re:Man arrested for promoting jury nullification wins federa... by throwaway0a5e on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @10:41AM (#32398668)
The organization of society is not outside our control. We've been architecting society for 1000s of years based on what has worked and what hasn't in years past. We aren't just along for the ride although that is a convenient excuse to do nothing and make no effort.
Re:Man arrested for promoting jury nullification wins federa... by CrazyPyroLinux on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @10:52PM (#32407394)
I wasn't necessarily suggesting to "do nothing and make no effort" - That's a strawman and false dichotomy. Sure, we can generally try to do more of what works and less of what doesn't. But usually the type of people who want to "architect society" end up being the worst type of "rules for thee but not for me" tyrants.
Re:Man arrested for promoting jury nullification wins federa... by MichaelZuo on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @09:59AM (#32412056)
I think the Founding Fathers of the U.S. 'architected society' reasonably well in the 1770-1800 period?
Re:Man arrested for promoting jury nullification wins federa... by CrazyPyroLinux on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:24PM (#32421203)
Tip-of-the-hat to our founders, for sure! But I'd say they were architecting a government, not a society. That's a very important distinction, and without it you can end up with some really destructive Statist/Authoritarian stuff.

Regarding those first 25 years or so: Jefferson's attempt to ban slavery in 1784 failed by 1 vote. Then there was the Whiskey Rebellion in 1791 and then the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798. So, nothing's perfect I guess...

Re:Man arrested for promoting jury nullification wins federa... by MichaelZuo on Saturday August 13, 2022 @09:02AM (#32449486)
I highly doubt they ignored considerations of how their envisioned government would affect future society and vice versa.