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Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by DanBC on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @02:07PM (#3239599)
uh, you can run other OSs on Apple hardware. It's a little bit trickier because of EFI but it's not hard.

What you can't do (Apple say) is run Apple OSs on non-Apple hardware.

Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by 101000101 on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @03:03PM (#3239901)
I don't want the Apple OS. Remove it completely from the hardware, make the firmware more friendly to non-Apple OS, then I'll buy more Apple hardware.

Other than NetBSD, I was not aware it's "easy" to run other OS's on Apple hardware. Knowing Apple, I'm still not sure I believe it.

But I will investigate. Thanks for the FYI.

Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by aidenn0 on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @10:25PM (#3241599)
It's actually pretty easy to do. I've seen several Windows, several BSDs and linuxes as well as some open-solaris derivative on x86 Macs.

The PowerPC macs are a bit less well supported just because there are fewer distros for PowerPC, but on the other hand, since apple's pretty much abandoned them, going with linux or a BSD has its own advantages

Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by srl on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @05:51PM (#3240731)
_I was not aware it's "easy" to run other OS's on Apple hardware. Knowing Apple, I'm still not sure I believe it._

I run linux (arch now, but once ubuntu) on a MacBook5,4. It's somewhat harder to get set up if you want to dual boot (the dual partitioning scheme is finicky, and although linux doesn't need it, OS X forces you to use it if there's a foreign OS, ugh..). See http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook .

Only one proprietary driver (for wireless) is needed - the rest Just Works. (And flash plays smoother than on OS X :P )

Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by kennywinker on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @11:59PM (#3241867)
I tossed a ubuntu cd in my MacBook Pro, rebooted holding down option, and it booted up just fine. Could it be easier?
Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by DanBC on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @02:13AM (#3242187)
One thing that could be easier is booting MacBook Pro from USB stick. A Unetbootin that works on Mac, and builds usb sticks bootable on Macs, would be good.

Or maybe bootcamp could mention Linux.

Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by 101000101 on Wednesday November 16, 2011 @03:28AM (#3242330)
My preference is to use only the bootloader for the OS I'm booting, as opposed to a "boot manager" that presents a menu of OS's. I avoid using chaining techniques the way something like GRUB does. And I don't use MBR's if I don't have to. Disklabels alone will suffice. So the stick contains only an OS-specific bootloader and the OS, usually just a kernel with embedded ramdisk or a loadable kernel module containing a filesystem and userland. I keep it very simple.

This works well for me with PC's. Would this work with today's x86 Macs?

Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by nobody31415926 on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @11:06PM (#3241710)
I installed Windows as dual boot on a friends Mac. It's far easier than installing it on a windows PC. Put in the windows disk and follow the Apple instructions - it includes all the drivers and even gave advice about sharing files .