Re:Tutors / tips to change your English accent
by gnubison on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @02:24AM
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“Ye” is just the nominative case (like “I” vs. “me” being accusative), it has nothing to do with number. Thou/thee is the one with number.
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Re:Tutors / tips to change your English accent
by davidgh on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @09:04PM
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You have it exactly backwards. Thou is singular and informal, ye is plural and / or singular formal.
Ye is a second-person, plural, personal pronoun (nominative), spelled in Old English as "ge". [0]
The word thou is a second-person singular pronoun in English. It is now largely archaic, having been replaced in most contexts by the word you. [1]
Re:Tutors / tips to change your English accent
by gnubison on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @02:14AM
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Not sure how my comment is “exactly backwards” — it’s logically consistent with your (new) comment. My point was that, relative to you, ye makes a case distinction (nominative), and that relative to you, thou makes a number distinction (glossing over formal/informal).
We deprecated ye and thou, but it’s the latter that “requires” y’all, because only thou (relative to us still having you) distinguishes the number of people.
Edit: put another way, “thou/thee is the one with number” meant that reintroducing them would create a number distinction.