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Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by joezydeco on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @12:12PM (#3239024)
If they think this PCB is "packed" they haven't looked hard enough at a smartphone teardown. Go look at the iPhone 4S teardown:

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4S-Teardown/6610/2

Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by easp on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @06:33PM (#3240888)
They could have achieved higher density, but it would have been more expensive. The density is in service of low costs, so that wouldn't have made much sense.
Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by r00fus on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @02:46PM (#3239822)
Difference is the iPhone has insane margins. You want to pay $35 or $100?
Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by joezydeco on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @03:15PM (#3239960)
Judging by how tight some of those discretes are packed on the board, Apple also has some serious pick and place machines.
Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by temp5678 on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @03:26PM (#3240025)
It's not the PCB that's expensive. It's the components on it.
Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by DanBC on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @05:24PM (#3240607)
That's often not true; PCBs can be a significant cost on the bill of materials for a gadget.

Amortising the tooling / artwork costs into big volumes helps, but even then the PCB is usually one of the more expensive items on the parts list.

Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by easp on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @06:35PM (#3240900)
Yup, it was interesting reading some of the discussions about the design of the device. PCB cost was a major consideration. They aren't exposing some of the I/O pins on the SoC because it would require a more expensive PCB to do so.
Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by sliverstorm on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @04:45PM (#3240421)
Custom small-time boards get expensive quickly when you shoot for tighter tolerances, which are necessary for truly tight spacing. If Raspberry Pi expects to sell 10 million units, then even a fancy board will cost nothing, but I doubt they are planning on such numbers...
Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by nobody31415926 on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @06:38PM (#3240908)
Board design is expensive for small units - but assembly costs for complex boards don't drop very much with large numbers.

Especially if Apple have every super high-end pick and place robot booked for the next n years!

Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by rosstafarian on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @03:44PM (#3240112)
$100? heh the 16gb 4s is $200(+fees, tax, etc.) because its subsidized with a 2 year contract. I think it's something like $650 if you buy it unlocked. compared to a $25 - $35 computer? Apples and oranges ;)
Re:Raspberry Pi reveals the final PCB design for the $25 PC by polshaw on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @08:50PM (#3241320)
I believe they were implying the R Pi may have cost $100 with a more compact board.