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Re:Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unl... by wins32767 on Monday August 08, 2022 @03:10PM (#32389656)
No, because Germany doesn't have that big of an IT space. Aerospace and automotive would be good sectors to hit back with because they are more relatively important to Germany as IT is for the US.
Re:Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unl... by xdennis on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:19PM (#32390507)
So you're essentially admitting that this is about revenge because Germany cares about its citizen's privacy and due process.
Re:Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unl... by wins32767 on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:54PM (#32390893)
I'm saying that if Europe decides it wants to block off parts of its economy, the US would be perfectly justified in doing the same (to everyone's detriment).

I could imagine a US based law that banned the sale of any durable goods produced by a company headquartered in a country that still got more than 5% of its power from lignite coal due to a strong climate commitment. That's tailored basically only to impact Germany. Is that fair?

Re:Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unl... by bettysdiagnose on Monday August 08, 2022 @03:21PM (#32389810)
OK but not wanting our personal records to be arbitrarily sized by the US government is very reasonable. Your government made a law that lets it spy on us... that's your problem.
Re:Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unl... by wins32767 on Monday August 08, 2022 @03:34PM (#32389987)
I don't think it's reasonable that I'm paying more than my share of taxes for the defense capabilities that allows Europe free access to a stable world market and roughly rules based international order that underpins the export economy of Germany in particular. If Europe would fix that, I'd feel a lot worse about the spying.
Re:Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unl... by akmarinov on Monday August 08, 2022 @05:11PM (#32391058)
No one’s making the US do that. Just stop the military spending.

Of course that means the US will no longer be a global superpower, but the US can freely choose that.

Re:Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unl... by bettysdiagnose on Monday August 08, 2022 @03:47PM (#32390171)
Complete and utter non-sequitur but I'll humour you.

I never understood American magical thinking that blames Europe for US military spending. In the end, if you want to cut military spending, you can.

Regardless, you're the hegemon. I don't accept that you don't benefit from that position.

Re:Usage of EU subsidiaries of US cloud providers deemed unl... by wins32767 on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:37PM (#32390699)
I don't think it is a non-sequitur. The spying is part of the overall defense structure that enables the German export economy to function.

EDIT: It's like saying "This thing you're giving me that allows my whole economy to function, I don't like the consequences of how you're doing it."