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Re:Post-Apocalyptic Programming by WalterBright on Monday August 08, 2022 @12:42PM (#32387810)
> Libertarian presumption that people, removed from the system of control, would all act better

Libertarians don't believe anything resembling that.

Libertarianism requires a government empowered to use force to guarantee peoples' fundamental rights.

If you have more questions about what Libertarianism actually is, feel free to ask, as I am one.

Re:Post-Apocalyptic Programming by infinite8s on Monday August 08, 2022 @07:48PM (#32392506)
Who decides on the fundamental rights?
Re:Post-Apocalyptic Programming by wrycoder on Monday August 08, 2022 @08:50PM (#32392928)
The people as a whole get together and decide, e.g. draw up a Constitution and then form a government to enforce those rights.

If they don't, then the strongest horse in the area will decide.

Take your pick.

Re:Post-Apocalyptic Programming by WalterBright on Monday August 08, 2022 @09:40PM (#32393272)
Your rights are inherent to being a human being. You are endowed by your Creator with the inalienable Rights of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. A libertarian government would be one that enforces those rights.

Governments do not grant rights. They either enforce or abrogate them.

Re:Post-Apocalyptic Programming by int_19h on Friday August 12, 2022 @12:53AM (#32434828)
You're a right libertarian, no? Something worth bearing in mind, because a left-libertarian answer to many questions - especially those pertaining to property rights - is likely to be fundamentally different.
Re:Post-Apocalyptic Programming by bitwize on Monday August 08, 2022 @04:59PM (#32390942)
Libertarianism requires someone empowered to use force. The idea of multiple competing law enforcement apparatus within the same jurisdiction is not just theoretical wankery, either; it's actually been tried. Most notably in the Icelandic Commonwealth, which endured for 300 years.
Re:Post-Apocalyptic Programming by WalterBright on Monday August 08, 2022 @07:05PM (#32392221)
> Libertarianism requires someone empowered to use force.

As I said.

> The idea of multiple competing law enforcement apparatus within the same jurisdiction is not just theoretical wankery, either; it's actually been tried. Most notably in the Icelandic Commonwealth, which endured for 300 years.

Libertarianism doesn't specify the form of government, just the role of government.