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Re:45 SF traffic cops issue just 10 citations combined a day by woodruffw on Saturday August 06, 2022 @06:58PM (#32372347)
Sure, it's different. The claim was that traffic enforcement via fine doesn't improve safety; I've shown that a form of traffic enforcement via fine does.

I've heard just about every driver I've ever talked to repeat the "red light cameras cause rear-ends" claim, but the only evidence I've seen shows that they decrease rear-ends. That makes more intuitive sense to me: most people have regular commutes, and you learn to follow the traffic laws after the first handful of tickets.

Re:45 SF traffic cops issue just 10 citations combined a day by woodruffw on Saturday August 06, 2022 @07:16PM (#32372471)
I appreciate the links. It looks like red light cameras are indeed much less effective (and maybe even counterproductive) in the rest of the US. As a pedestrian, I consider them a blessing in NYC.