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Re:45 SF traffic cops issue just 10 citations combined a day by woodruffw on Saturday August 06, 2022 @06:47PM (#32372289)
> First off, as we have seen "settled law" is never really settled

Sure. I naturally await the day that any of our 50 beautiful states, much less the federal government, decides that driving is a fundamental right!

Insofar as law can be settled, the absence of a right to drive is settled.

> However if instead the public can put reasonable limits for public safety on both gun ownership and driving, both driving and gun ownership would be rights... as they should be considered.

This is affirming the consequent: the fact we put reasonable limits on a government-recognized right and a non-right does not imply that the non-right is somehow a right. The government puts limits on hunting on federal lands; that does not imply a right to hunt (either on those lands or at all).

You have a right to free movement. The government is not required to respect any particular instantiation of your movement as a pure right in itself. Put another way: you right to travel does not give you a free pass to fly a plane without licensing and safety training.

Re:45 SF traffic cops issue just 10 citations combined a day by notch656a on Sunday August 07, 2022 @12:18PM (#32377603)
If you have the right to free movement but the government requires someone licensed to operate for the vast majority of ways of efficient free movement, that's just infringing on the right to free movement in a clever and devious way while saying "well you could walk!"

It kind of reminds me of the states where you need a license/permit to acquire a gun, "but you could acquire an antique muzzleloader without one" so the mental gymnastics justify it as not an infringement.