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Re:We're improving search results when you use quotes by jjoonathan on Friday August 05, 2022 @09:24AM (#32355761)
> having values

That's your plan? THAT'S YOUR PLAN? For the people in charge to magically start valuing your quality of life without beating them over the head with regulation?

Look, I hope as much as the next guy that a competitor emerges with a better offering, against all odds beats the incumbent, and unlike the last 5 times this happened does not follow the market incentive to become evil, but hope is not a strategy.

Re:We're improving search results when you use quotes by thesuitonym on Friday August 05, 2022 @09:29AM (#32355846)
The real answer is to change who's in charge. One way to do this is regulations, another is socialization.
Re:We're improving search results when you use quotes by falcor84 on Friday August 05, 2022 @09:43AM (#32356010)
The paradox is that as long as it's difficult to become in charge, only the really ambitious people will get there, and these generally aren't the people who'll serve others. Back to the lottery system?
Re:We're improving search results when you use quotes by thesuitonym on Friday August 05, 2022 @09:52AM (#32356114)
If we move ownership from boards of investors to the people who work at a company, and make leadership democratically elected, such as in a co-op, things work out a little better. Yeah, ambitious people will still raise to the top, but their incentives will be to make the company better, not necessarily more profitable.
Re:We're improving search results when you use quotes by falcor84 on Friday August 05, 2022 @10:18AM (#32356436)
Ok, let's assume for the sake of discussion that co-ops are better in every way, what then? Should we just require all shareholders to be employed full-time at the company (effectively eliminating the stock market), or just the leadership?
Re:We're improving search results when you use quotes by thesuitonym on Friday August 05, 2022 @11:52AM (#32357905)
For a co-op to work, every employee (And often, every customer, though that's not necessary) gets one vote. They become the shareholders. Yes, this means that company in particular wouldn't have stock with voting shares, but that doesn't mean it can't have a stock market. For instance: There are other companies.
Re:We're improving search results when you use quotes by falcor84 on Friday August 05, 2022 @03:08PM (#32360544)
>There are other companies.

Oh, but that's the thing, obviously there already are co-ops; my impression was that you wanted all companies to be co-ops.

Re:We're improving search results when you use quotes by mtlmtlmtlmtl on Friday August 05, 2022 @11:31AM (#32357588)
Not the GP, but: I wouldn't call it a plan, more of a goal.