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Re:Why do tree-based models still outperform deep learning o... by wpietri on Wednesday August 03, 2022 @04:48PM (#32336497)
Could you say more about this?

One of the things that interests me about nominal AI applications is the extent to which they're sort of a Mechanical Turk or what I've heard called Artificial Artificial Intelligence. By which I mean it's sold as computer magic, but most of the magic is actually humans sneaking in a lot of human judgement. That can come through humans directly massaging the output or through human-driven selection of results. But I've also been wondering to what extent natural human intelligence is getting put in at the lower layers of the system, like feature engineering.

Re:Why do tree-based models still outperform deep learning o... by laichzeit0 on Thursday August 04, 2022 @04:23AM (#32340536)
This is how I see it:

Statistical modeling: input -> feature extraction (manual) -> model selection (manual) -> output

Machine learning: input -> feature extraction (manual) -> model selection (auto) -> output

Deep learning: input -> feature extraction (auto) -> model selection (auto) -> output

So take a DL image classifier. The convolution + pooling layers perform automatic feature extraction. Back to OPs point, why use something like DL when you've already engineered your features?

Re:Why do tree-based models still outperform deep learning o... by wpietri on Thursday August 04, 2022 @11:19AM (#32344071)
Wow, what a good summary. Thanks!
Re:Why do tree-based models still outperform deep learning o... by jb_s on Wednesday August 03, 2022 @11:44PM (#32339130)
looks like AI, quacks like a bunch of linear equations
Re:Why do tree-based models still outperform deep learning o... by eru on Thursday August 04, 2022 @12:30AM (#32339378)
Lots of linear functions with \x -> max(0, x) thrown in between.

(That's literally what neural nets with relu as activation unit do.)