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Re:I still love PHP and JavaScript by ehnto on Wednesday August 03, 2022 @09:48AM (#32331625)
Do you really though, or are you being a bit hyperbolic? It's really not that complicated or arbitrary. If you find yourself hitting idiosyncrasies so often you've got the docs open you might just be doing it wrong. There's also some learning to do for any language, no language is so intuitive that you know it without any effort or learning.

All the above said, do enough real work in any language and you'll find cases where the idioms of the language don't map to your work.

Re:I still love PHP and JavaScript by CSSer on Wednesday August 03, 2022 @01:50PM (#32334843)
PHP isn’t consistent with itself and has abstraction leaks for things that it shouldn’t. PHP does not bring me joy.

Of course I’m speaking succintly above. It’s not that bad, but it’s not that much better either. I’m not going to stockholm myself into using a language just because it’s “mature” if I don’t have to. I may have that relationship with JavaScript but at least in that case resistance is somewhat futile and there are practical benefits to be had.