The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs

Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by User23 on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @03:29PM (#32323192)

I know alcoholics who are well to do, out of debt, happily married, and have a diverse social circle and several personal hobbies, get exercise, and enjoy thinking. None of that shows the merits of alcoholism. I can't speak for the person you're replying to, but I could guess that it's your drug addiction that they have no desire to emulate.

Addicts insisting that their addiction isn't one is cliché for a reason.

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Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by sianemo on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @04:30PM (#32323888)

Setting aside the hilarious disrespect of assuming that I'm a drug addict from single comment on the internet, you are capable of realizing that taking issue with people who use a drug only because of the mental and social association you have of people who use the drug is a super tight loop of circular logic, aren't you?

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Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by rjbwork on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @05:13PM (#32324360)

The idea of accusing someone of being a drug addict in the context of psychedelic use is absolutely hilarious. You sound completely uninformed and pretty much nobody should take you seriously on this topic.

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Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by LocalH on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @03:36PM (#32323274)

Psychedelics are largely not "addictive". Certainly not physiologically, and almost certainly not mentally.

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Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by zone411 on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @04:37PM (#32323988)

They actually show promise for stopping additions.

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Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by denton-scratch on Wednesday August 03, 2022 @04:51AM (#32329242)

Many psychedelics are the opposite of addictive: if you take LSD for more than a couple of days, for example, the effect diminishes to nothing, whatever dose you take. You need at least a couple of weeks to re-sensistise.

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Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by ericmcer on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @08:18PM (#32326096)

I challenge you to find someone addicted to psilocybin. I would be impressed if someone managed to do a trip sized dose let’s say… 2x a week for any long duration.

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Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by scythe on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @03:55PM (#32323500)

High frequency of use is a necessary condition for addiction.

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Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by toss1 on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @06:47PM (#32325260)

>>necessary condition for addiction. Necessary, but not sufficient

You might also note that the GP said nothing about frequency of use, only "long time psych user", AND that no one here has defined "high frequency" in terms of an actual threshold for addiction.

The fact is that for all drugs, and especially for the psychedelics, there are far many more people who use occasionally and responsibly than the subset who are addicted. AFAIK, the psychedelics are not considered addictive at all, either physically/physiologically or mentally.

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Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by galaxyLogic on Wednesday August 03, 2022 @01:22AM (#32327932)

I agree. Traveling expands the mind, but you don't want to be traveling all the time. Is travel addictive? Maybe for some but for most of us probably not

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Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by InCityDreams on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @11:02PM (#32327158)

High necessity of use is a frequent condition for addiction.

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Re:The high-stakes race to engineer new psychedelic drugs by thatcat on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @06:36PM (#32325155)

alcohol is neurotoxic and addictive. psychs are neurotrophic and non-addictive, but the purity isn't guaranteed. Impurities are common in blackmarkets.

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