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Re:What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes? by ghaff on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @11:29AM (#32319849)
It's not just startups. If someone wants to and can get an offer from one of the richer big tech companies (FAANG isn't really the right acronym as Microsoft at least is also in the mix) and is just going to go with the best offer, just about no one is going to be able to compete--at least in the US. I've heard plenty of stories of companies not even trying to match offers.
Re:What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes? by cmrdporcupine on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @11:42AM (#32320084)
Yes in my job hunt over the last 6 months basically the first thing I have had to say to potential employers is: "No, I'm not expecting to match what I was getting at Google."

Pretty sure that a lot of places I simply didn't hear back from was because they didn't expect to be able to even come close on comp. And I've had other Xoogler friends who applied for places, got promising initial results, and then insanely low offers (like 1/3rd or less of Google comp).

I'll do 2/3rds or even 1/2 for the right job, but not 1/4 or 1/3rd.

Now, part of that is the domestic market (Ontario Canada) has been underpaying SWEs for years and getting away with it, since most of the good talent flees south after graduation anyways.

But part of it is that FAANG compensation is just far more than anybody else could ever afford.

Re:What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes? by TulliusCicero on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @02:33PM (#32322568)
> But part of it is that FAANG compensation is just far more than anybody else could ever afford.

I don't think this is true. I've had friends getting comparable comp offers at HBO and NatGeo, for example. And of course it's been known for some time that successful startups like Uber, Lyft, Airbnb, Dropbox, etc. were doing comparable offers.

Once a company decides to really compete digitally, and that they can leverage economies of scale properly there, it suddenly makes sense to compete for the same class of engineer that can work at Google, Meta, etc.

Re:What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes? by sbierwagen on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @03:25PM (#32323148)
>FAANG isn't really the right acronym as Microsoft at least is also in the mix

Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon: MAGA

Re:What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes? by maxfurman on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @04:18PM (#32323755)
> Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon: MAGA

Google, Apple, Microsoft, Meta, Amazon: GAMMA

Re:What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes? by bob29 on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @05:38PM (#32324586)
Facebook Apple Google Microsoft Amazon Netflix:
Re:What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes? by tintedfireglass on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @11:37PM (#32327381)
is Netflix actually such a big company to include it with those tech giants?
Re:What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes? by maxfurman on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @11:43PM (#32327420)
Netflix is in the original FAANG so I guess they get grandfathered in