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Re:How a cooling vest invented by a furry made it's way into... by closewith on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @05:27AM (#32316672)
Surely they’re orthogonal traits. A diverse group can unify. An example might even be the military.
Re:How a cooling vest invented by a furry made it's way into... by carrozo on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @05:31AM (#32316692)
"United in diversity" is literally the official motto of the European Union.
Re:How a cooling vest invented by a furry made it's way into... by heurisko on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @09:29AM (#32318216)
To anyone who believes that in practice, I recommend Yanis Veroufakis's book "Adults in the Room"
Re:How a cooling vest invented by a furry made it's way into... by kome on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @05:51AM (#32316814)
officially: "In Varietate Concordia"
Re:How a cooling vest invented by a furry made it's way into... by katkatkatkatket on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @05:51AM (#32316816)
Right. You can't have both at the same time.
Re:How a cooling vest invented by a furry made it's way into... by closewith on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @05:58AM (#32316853)
I'm not sure I follow. I mean orthogonal as in along different axes.

Why do you think diversity and unity are mutually exclusive?

Re:How a cooling vest invented by a furry made it's way into... by katkatkatkatket on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @06:32AM (#32317033)
From your example - how does the military "unify" a diverse group of people? By aligning their thought processes and decision making. That is, by removing that very diversity.

The two words also mean literally the opposite thing. You can be along a spectrum from one to the other, but you can't have both at once.

Re:How a cooling vest invented by a furry made it's way into... by closewith on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @06:39AM (#32317062)
What a bizarre thought process. Unification towards a common goal isn't homogenisation. Neither is common training or experience.
Re:How a cooling vest invented by a furry made it's way into... by katkatkatkatket on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @07:27AM (#32317302)
Talking of bizarre thought processes - how can you unify, and/or receive common training or experience, without losing some form of diversity?

We all love to say how true diversity is diversity of experience. You are literally taking about unified, shared experiences.

Re:How a cooling vest invented by a furry made it's way into... by closewith on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @07:54AM (#32317479)
I just don't follow your reasoning here. Is it your contention that a new experience deletes or diminishes previous experiences? Or that newly learnt knowledge diminishes that previously learnt?

Surely a new set of common experiences increases the diversity of thought of all the participants? Nothing's lost.

Re:How a cooling vest invented by a furry made it's way into... by katkatkatkatket on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @08:37AM (#32317733)
>Surely a new set of common experiences increases the diversity of thought of all the participants?

This statement is absurd on its face. The entire premise of the benefits of diversity (of thought and experience) is predicated on the subjects in question having had unique experiences.

>Is it your contention that a new experience deletes or diminishes previous experiences?

Somewhat, yes. When I went to university, the shared experiences there hugely overshadowed what I had experienced in my prior education.