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Re:California aims to make its own insulin brand to lower price by gamblor956 on Monday August 01, 2022 @05:33PM (#32312320)
The state of California is simply another entity in the market. As long as they don't use illegal means to establish market position (i.e., coercion, etc.), there are no laws against them competing with private markets.

And in this particular case, the reason that California is jumping into the market is because the private merchants have artificially increased prices to pad their profits and pay their executives, at the expense of thousands of people who are now struggling to afford an essential (and a historically ridiculously cheap) medication.

Re:California aims to make its own insulin brand to lower price by braingenious on Monday August 01, 2022 @09:16PM (#32314148)
If you’re referring to financial cost, it’s not at the expense of thousands, it’s at the expense of millions of diabetics in the US. (1) (2)

Unless of course you mean the expense of thousands of dead or permanently disabled diabetics, that is the correct ballpark! (3)(4)

(1) https://www.diabetes.org/about-us/statistics/about-diabetes

(2) https://www.forbes.com/sites/debgordon/2022/06/20/4-out-of-5...

(3) https://www.cbsnews.com/news/insulin-prices-2019-diabetes-ra...

(4) https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-us-diabetes-death...

Re:California aims to make its own insulin brand to lower price by gamblor956 on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @03:08PM (#32322972)
I was specifically referring to CA taxpayers, not the entire country, as the CA insulin would only be available to CA residents initially.
Re:California aims to make its own insulin brand to lower price by braingenious on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @04:41PM (#32324022)
Thanks for clarifying! My point sadly still stands when looking at just California.

California has about ~2 million diabetics (1) and even when factoring in type 2, most of them (2) will require insulin at some point. The scale is still in the millions.

(1) https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CCDPHP/DCDIC/CDCB/CDPH%20Do...

(2) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25451189/

Re:California aims to make its own insulin brand to lower price by dragonwriter on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @04:54PM (#32324180)
> The state of California is simply another entity in the market.

Well, no, it's the state government. It has powers that it absolutely can use that other market participants cannot.

> As long as they don't use illegal means to establish market position (i.e., coercion, etc.), there are no laws against them competing with private markets.

State governments, acting as sovereigns, are immune from federal antitrust (Parker immunity doctrine), and can, therefore, use what would otherwise be illegal means (including coercion) to exclude others from the market.

Re:California aims to make its own insulin brand to lower price by gamblor956 on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @10:53PM (#32327107)
No, by definition those means are not illegal...

And the state could alternatively pass laws regulating private behavior. But sometimes having a state agency instead of a law is the less burdensome option.