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Re:Nuclear energy is clean by loup-vaillant on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:37PM (#32310332)
How many joules would your hill/cavity-and-water (or any of your "numerous cheap alternatives" for that matter) would hold for each dollar spent? How would that compare to actual dams? I need sources & links.

Right now I would bet on a highly unfavourable comparison to be honest. Dams have the overwhelming advantage of letting you build a relatively small wall (compared to the lake you're holding), to hold a gigantic volume of water. The mountain an the river are already there, so you don't need to build them.

Re:Nuclear energy is clean by ncmncm on Monday August 01, 2022 @06:12PM (#32312739)
Ask the people who build them.

Hydro power systems need to store a year or more. Utilities will need at most a few weeks. You don't need or want a river. Dams are f'ing expensive because they need geological support for extreme pressure. An earthen dike suffices if you don't already have a depression.

Only the penstock needs to hold back high pressure.

Re:Nuclear energy is clean by loup-vaillant on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @04:59AM (#32316517)
Give me sources or it does not exist.

I'm aware of dams. I'm not aware of your fancy alternatives. It is therefore reasonable to assume that those fancy alternatives aren't widely deployed. And that the main reason for this is that they're more expensive (per energy unit).

Without sources, your (admittedly plausible) qualitative arguments are just a pretty story.

Re:Nuclear energy is clean by ncmncm on Thursday August 04, 2022 @08:33AM (#32341974)
You are welcome to read up, yourself.

California has constructed dozens of high-altitude, low-head earthen dams on the same principle, over the past century, with penstocks down to lower-altitude turbines, and has lately converted many of them for pumped hydro.