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Re:US regulators will certify first small nuclear reactor de... by Retric on Sunday July 31, 2022 @04:34AM (#32294223)
It’s worth remembering that the US and many other healthcare systems around the world got absolutely slammed by COVID and stayed that way throughout most of the pandemic. Restrictions kept being tightened and loosened not out of incompetence but in response to actual hospitalizations and deaths.

In the end, US casualties only being ~1 million was actually a positive outcome, things could have been a lot worse even if exactly the same people got sick but they did so even slightly faster. Worse suffering 5+ times as many casualties in 2020 would not have prevented the variants which would happily reinfect people.

There wasn’t any great options, but many of them where far worse.

Re:US regulators will certify first small nuclear reactor de... by roenxi on Sunday July 31, 2022 @10:23AM (#32295677)
This really annoys me, because I see the following chain.

1) Healthcare is too important for light touch regulation =>

2) Big political fight over regulation =>

3) Competition in healthcare largely disappears =>

4) Oh no something went wrong, now we have to adjust what human rights are available based on how prepared the government is for a rather predictable crisis (COVID wasn't/isn't even the bad-case for a highly contagious respiratory disease).

There are people seriously trying to argue that walking more than single-digit kilometres from a body's home depends on what the government's hospital policy was 5 years ago. In complete seriousness, this is crazy. I thought we'd agreed that basic rights were a thing but it turns out large segments of the population and bureaucrats seriously don't believe that.

And exactly what we got to show for this is questionable. Border controls are the only government tool that I have faith in after that pandemic. Even the vaccine we only managed because people agreed that the usual safety procedures would take to long and that we could skip them because the economic damage caused by fearful people was too great. The governments of the world caused a lot of problems these last few years.

Re:US regulators will certify first small nuclear reactor de... by Retric on Sunday July 31, 2022 @10:50AM (#32295888)
Curtailing freedoms due to disease is a very old thing and it works with COVID being no exception.

Mary Mallon was forcibly quarantined, let go resulting in 2 additional deaths, and then permanently quarantined in the US because she was an asymptomatic carrier of typhoid fever in the early 1900’s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon The most common versions historically was locking people in their homes or isolating a community from the outside.

As to your complaint, walking outside does carry the risk of infecting others as people demonstrably have gotten COVID from walking past each other. It’s a low risk which why it was generally acceptable, but officials where balancing even this vs more people dying.

Re:US regulators will certify first small nuclear reactor de... by peyton on Sunday July 31, 2022 @12:45PM (#32296773)
> Curtailing freedoms due to disease is a very old thing and it works with COVID being no exception.

If you look at agency budgets you’d think our money would’ve bought a better plan.

Re:US regulators will certify first small nuclear reactor de... by Retric on Sunday July 31, 2022 @01:33PM (#32297113)
It’s all trade offs, there isn’t an objectively better plan.

The US for example encouraged but didn’t mandate the general public get vaccinated. It’s easy to say that’s the wrong choice, but people would have seriously objected.

Re:US regulators will certify first small nuclear reactor de... by omniglottal on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @08:33AM (#32317690)
People did seriously object, lost their jobs, and lost their faith in the system so much that a recession follows sooner than that those now unemployed try again to be humanized.
Re:US regulators will certify first small nuclear reactor de... by Retric on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @09:42AM (#32318353)
Are you saying people objected to something that didn’t happen?
Re:US regulators will certify first small nuclear reactor de... by wizofaus on Sunday July 31, 2022 @04:41AM (#32294255)
I wouldn't speak about it in the past tense personally!