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Re:Winning a London Garden Allotment by teakettle42 on Saturday July 30, 2022 @11:49PM (#32292989)
> Meaningless for who? You or the people your paying respect to?

Everyone. The person saying it doesn’t mean it. The people they’re ostensibly saying it to receive no benefit.

> Maybe! Maybe not. I know which side my soul falls on.

On the side of meaningless gestures and self-righteously signaling how virtuous you think you are?

Re:Winning a London Garden Allotment by ace2358 on Sunday July 31, 2022 @01:48AM (#32293516)
Yikes! Honestly of all the indigenous elders I’ve personally spoken to, none of them expressed your opinion of ‘no benefit’.

Now they are a distributed culture so I know that the local communities don’t speak for other communities.

But I’m curious to know how deep your connections go into any indigenous community. I will readily admit that I don’t have huge amounts of contact with my locals, but speaking FOR them and saying they receive no benefit is a bit weird…

Also, why does anyone have to benefit at all?

Re:Winning a London Garden Allotment by teakettle42 on Sunday July 31, 2022 @02:19PM (#32297444)
> Honestly of all the indigenous elders I’ve personally spoken to, none of them expressed your opinion of ‘no benefit’.

I’m sorry, is that an argument?

Are you giving them back the land? No?

Then what benefit do they receive, exactly, and why are they owed it?

> Also, why does anyone have to benefit at all?

If you’re going to ask everyone to expend energy genuflecting to your religious dogma, surely there must be some benefit to someone beyond merely benefiting your own social power/standing?