Re:Why Punish?
by obscurette on Sunday July 31, 2022 @11:10AM
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Reminds me some public opinions from Western Europe countries (especially from Germany) during first months of war in Ukraine – "Why they are fighting? Just stop killing, please and give Russians what they want."
I don’t see how we get there though because all it takes is one defector to steamroll everyone else who refuses to use violence to defend themselves.
The horrifying stereotypical faulty AI answer is that the dead are violent only in fiction. Which illustrates the ironic essential hypocrisy involved in getting a stable solution. I don't think it is a routable solution or achievible even if we may see the path. Like how we can easily see "be born a billionaire" as an answer to personal fiscal woes.
Slightly less extreme and horrifying than omnicide but persistent are somehow inflicting widespread learned helplessness that somehow persists across generations. Even if we could all be "honey-beed" and all die from inflicting serious harm, any defect would make the "violence capable mutants" monarchs.
People sometimes ask, when will humans finally stop killing each others in wars and crime. I believe that not until violence goes off the table completely as an option. Not sometimes, not only for hideous criminals, not for stopping violence, not as a play, not as teaching implement. Literally never, not-even-coming-to-mind never, physically-incapable never, gone-in-any-form-from-the-culture never, no-hunting-animals-too never. Otherwise it will always be the ultimate option which can always escalate.