I was also unaware that Rust has such significant penetration in the Linux kernel, and that's a place where I can see it really shining.
My first comment in this thread was something to the effect that Rust has tons of great stuff to offer, and that the memory safety argument is actually weaker than people think and probably not the only thing people should talk about.
The resulting gang-tackle is just one more data point that the community is still too small and evangelical for me to want to get involved past my proprietary Rust stuff.
I’m using it for a new project and honestly I’m using it more for the modern tooling and easy C interop than the safety features, but I’m a fan overall. Think it’s a really good language.
Can you expand on that? I'm currently researching something similar but lower level & lisp instead of Haskell. It would help to see some existing examples to figure out if it's worth it or not.
Basically we have a nice Haskell DSL for generating arbitrary C++, and we deal with lots of code you wouldn't want to write by hand (big nested switch statements and other kinds of state-machine logic, choices about loop unrolling, lots of template overloads, SIMD intrinsics that require immediate values, etc. etc.) so we write Haskell that generates C++ and feeds it to e.g. `clang`.
Some of this is directly in Haskell, and some of it is little compilers mostly done using Megaparsec. It's a really nice approach where it fits!
None of it is really all that magical btw, so you should take a whack at it yourself!
One thing that wouldn't have occurred to me that one of the Haskell geniuses I work with identified to use is the notion of a "free"/"operational" monad: https://apfelmus.nfshost.com/articles/operational-monad.html.
> None of it is really all that magical btw, so you should take a whack at it yourself!
Of course! It's always good to see how other people approach it though.
I suspect that the adoption of Rust as a system language is going slower because that's just the natural pace of embedded/systems development, not because of anything intrinsic to Rust. There are now 30k+ lines of Rust code [1] in the Linux kernel. C++ can't claim that.
[1] https://www.phoronix.com/news/Rust-v6-For-Linux-Kernel