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Re:FBI is hiding details about a raid on Americans’ safe dep... by rowanajmarshall on Friday July 29, 2022 @06:50AM (#32275355)
> What pisses me off is people complaining about my local, free-range meat consumption while chomping on fruit and grain grown in more temperate countries and flown here.

Not sure if you're being serious here, but the _extreme_ vast majority of food is shipped, not flown. It's something like 0.16% [1], and I'll bet that's low-volume, high-worth food. And your local meat _probably_ has a higher carbon footprint than meat imported from a better climate; lamb from New Zealand, plus shipping to the UK, has a lower carbon footprint than lamb from the UK eaten in the UK [2], because the New Zealand climate is better.

[1] https://ourworldindata.org/food-transport-by-mode

[2] https://www.ecoandbeyond.co/articles/british-new-zealand-lam...

People really underestimate how efficient shipping has gotten over the last 50 years or so.

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Re:FBI is hiding details about a raid on Americans’ safe dep... by sph on Friday July 29, 2022 @09:36AM (#32276685)
Do boats not consume diesel? They might be efficient, but is it as efficient as not travelling thousands of miles by sea?

The idea that importing lamb from NZ is better than locally grown is absolutely ridiculous I wouldn't even know where to start.

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Re:FBI is hiding details about a raid on Americans’ safe dep... by rowanajmarshall on Saturday July 30, 2022 @06:41AM (#32285722)
Yes, quite a lot more efficient. You can call it ridiculous, but we're incredibly good at efficiently shipping things.
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