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Re:House Democrats to propose ban on lawmaker stock trading ... by eloff on Thursday July 28, 2022 @02:57PM (#32268695)
Wouldn't this be solved rather easily by prohibiting fund raising and using tax dollars to finance campaigns? Everyone gets the same budget? That means money has no sway over politicians and money can't influence the result unfairly.
Re:House Democrats to propose ban on lawmaker stock trading ... by techdragon on Thursday July 28, 2022 @03:09PM (#32268843)
Unless Citizens United is overturned, this would take a constitutional amendment, "money is speech" per that Supreme Court verdict and so...

> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

So this puts us as requiring a constitutional amendment since only that can carve out an exception to something earlier in the constitution (see the 21st amendment which repealed prohibition) and unfortunately constitutional amendments have an extremely high bar to clear to make them happen. Not just a "half of the bastards finally agree" like a regular law ...

Per article 5 of the constitution:

> Amendments may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate; or by a convention to propose amendments called by Congress at the request of two-thirds of the state legislatures. To become part of the Constitution, an amendment must then be ratified by either—as determined by Congress—the legislatures of three-quarters of the states or by ratifying conventions conducted in three-quarters of the states

75 percent of the state congresses have to agree to it on top of 2/3 of the federal congress.

It will never happen short of some apocalyptic social shift.

Re:House Democrats to propose ban on lawmaker stock trading ... by eloff on Friday July 29, 2022 @08:30AM (#32276053)
Yeah, I don't like your odds here. Your politicians can barely agree on a budget these days. Constitutional amendments seem like a thing of the past now. But it's likely the only good solution here, and on other issues too, like abortion.
Re:House Democrats to propose ban on lawmaker stock trading ... by techdragon on Friday July 29, 2022 @02:25PM (#32280236)
They really do seem like a thing from history. If you chart both how far apart each of them are in ratification date and time from the start of the process for ratification to the fine they get finally ratified you see this steady increase over time.
Re:House Democrats to propose ban on lawmaker stock trading ... by Pulcinella on Thursday July 28, 2022 @03:01PM (#32268760)
Would you enforce that on “friends of the campaign” as well? E.g. Political Action Committees. John Jackson is running for political office using only public money. However, Big Titanium Inc. creates the privately run and funded “Friends of John Jackson” organization that is entirely unaffiliated with John Jackson but nevertheless runs pro-John Jackson ads in TV.
Re:House Democrats to propose ban on lawmaker stock trading ... by caymanjim on Thursday July 28, 2022 @03:15PM (#32268914)
And if that's clamped down on, they just run increasingly vague ads that don't mention a candidate by name, but are clearly boosting the person/party/side they want to see succeed. A lot of people--particularly Democrats--like to say the Supreme Court got Citizens United wrong, but there's no way to get money out of politics while still maintaining any level of free speech.
Re:House Democrats to propose ban on lawmaker stock trading ... by eloff on Friday July 29, 2022 @08:27AM (#32276025)
Yes.
Re:House Democrats to propose ban on lawmaker stock trading ... by saxonww on Thursday July 28, 2022 @03:03PM (#32268780)
The issue with this and any proposal is that the people making the decision have no incentive to make it. Politicians limiting their own fundraising, establishing term limits, eliminating gerrymandering, etc. - it goes against their interests.

It's up to us to vote in people who would do this, but as pointed out, it's become difficult to do so in one election for one candidate, let alone the hundreds over the span of several years necessary to get people in place to actually make something positive happen.

Re:House Democrats to propose ban on lawmaker stock trading ... by nradov on Thursday July 28, 2022 @03:10PM (#32268856)
That would presumably require a Constitutional amendment to carve out an exception in the 1st Amendment. So not easy.

https://www.fec.gov/legal-resources/court-cases/citizens-uni...