Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant

Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by jakelazaroff on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @09:00PM (#32259183)

My hypothetical is that if your mail is in the footage Google turns over to the police sans warrant, they can use it as evidence against you. That’s not “going through someone else’s mail”.

All I’ll say is that I’d prefer to stop the thing that will very clearly harm someone before that actually happens, not pretend we haven’t seen a million times before what happens when you give police more power.

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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by TameAntelope on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @09:37PM (#32259438)

And I'm grateful people like you aren't actually able to implement pre-crime divisions!

It sounds arrogant, to me, to be so sure you know what the outcome will be of a given situation, considering all of the necessary ingredients for that outcome have existed for some time and what you claim is "inevitable" has still not happened.

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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by jakelazaroff on Thursday July 28, 2022 @01:13AM (#32260711)

I think we’ve reached an impasse. I’d just like to point out that advocating that companies not give police access to our private lives except when forced to by a warrant is basically the exact opposite of “pre-crime”.

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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by TameAntelope on Thursday July 28, 2022 @01:54AM (#32260886)

It fits the very definition of a pre-crime because you don't have a problem with how they're currently using that information (sparsely to catch criminals), only with how they might, in the future, use that information.

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