Re:Tesla driver using Autopilot kills motorcyclist, promptin...
by hcurtiss on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:01PM
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Fair enough, but approaching the problem rationally, is that really how we should measure success? Are you satisfied with a solution that results in objectively more death just because you claim to have some part in creating it? That strikes me as ridiculous, and the outcome is that we're holding autonomous driving to an impossible standard.
Re:Tesla driver using Autopilot kills motorcyclist, promptin...
by RhysU on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @08:00PM
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Thought experiments!
Cancer is cured but 99% of its death toll is replaced by wholly random spontaneous human combustion. Is that better?
What if it wasn't purely random but instead the chance of your spontaneous combustion slightly depended on if your socks are worn? Is that better?
I posit both suck.
Re:Tesla driver using Autopilot kills motorcyclist, promptin...
by hcurtiss on Thursday July 28, 2022 @12:51AM
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The difference here, I think, is that you don’t have to use autonomous drivers. To the contrary, notwithstanding laws against it, you do have to share the road with distracted and drunk drivers.
It's frankly a little baffling that this part of human psychology even has to be explained. It's like the trolley problem: There seem to be some people who don't understand why you wouldn't simply pursue the result that holds fewer deaths - who don't understand why the trolley problem exists at all, what the point of it is. I suspect there is a relationship between these people and the people who don't understand how there could be any part of decision-making about autonomous vehicles apart from the raw numeric value of deaths vs non-autonomous vehicles.