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Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by judge2020 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @11:55AM (#32252052)
'prosperous society' ~= convenience, less human hours wasted on boring stuff. The convenience of a video doorbell and connected home sure seem worth it to me.
Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by fleetwoodsnack on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @12:08PM (#32252273)
Agree to disagree. Systems that frustrate the accumulation and concentration of power seem to be integral to a functional society, nevermind a prosperous one, historically speaking.

“Convenience, less human hours wasted on boring stuff” is fine as an individual consumer mindset, but does not form sufficient criteria for evaluating complex social systems.

Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by Karunamon on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @12:02PM (#32252171)
And how are either of those things substantially impacted if Google's policy was "we do not hand over user data without a warrant"?
Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by judge2020 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @12:19PM (#32252431)
I'm not saying they are, just that consumers are giving up privacy for some sort of return. It's not required, as there are E2E HomeKit alternatives, but it's inaccurate that 'all you do is give up privacy'.
Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant by azlev on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @12:45PM (#32252803)
You can have all of this without giving up data.