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Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by duxup on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @11:37AM (#32251788)
The sleepy suburbs have their downsides, but also their upsides for sure.
Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by MonkeyMalarky on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @11:59AM (#32252117)
People like to hate on suburbs for a lot of valid reasons but moving back to one as an adult after spending my 20s in the city was profoundly calming.
Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by duxup on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @01:13PM (#32253233)
The whole "hey kids go outside and play" and I don't feel the need to monitor them is wonderful if you've got kids.
Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by prvit on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:10PM (#32254202)
Also a perfectly normal thing in cities in most of the world.
Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by iakov on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @04:28PM (#32256439)
In the ones that have an "outside" for the kids, sure. In my experience, most of the bigger cities in Europe just don't have the space for the kids to hang out. Sure there are parks with playgrounds here and there, but they are separated by kilometers of concrete and stone. At least suburbs have the spaces and the clean air.
Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by lmm on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @06:22PM (#32257807)
Cities have a lot more for kids to do within a kilometer or two, IME. In a suburb you may have "space" but it's all just people's lawns and strips of grass next to the road.
Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by Bluecobra on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @06:44PM (#32258030)
Not all suburbs are set up like that. Mine has a nice “downtown” area in walking distance with plenty to do. There’s mid-rise buildings, shops, restaurants, bars, and a train station to the city if you get bored.
Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by lmm on Thursday July 28, 2022 @02:37AM (#32261125)
You need density for that kind of "downtown", which is in fundamental tension with this notion of "space". I used to live in Ealing, which calls itself "Queen of the suburbs", but I don't think that's the kind of place iakov was talking about.
Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by dzhiurgis on Thursday July 28, 2022 @04:25AM (#32261708)
To me it seems whole "urban culture" (graffiti and skateboards (i know i'm probably shallow by generalising it as such)) has developed from lack for playgrounds and green spaces (especially for older kids).

In Lithuania lots of soviet buildings actually had somewhat of a common yard, which in past 20 years has been replaced with a parking lot.

Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by garborg on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @12:05PM (#32252225)
Same. I've left my garage door open on the way out so many times (in a quiet, unremarkable cul de sac -- neither upscale nor rundown) without consequence that I no longer worry about whether or not I closed it.
Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by WalterBright on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @12:39PM (#32252733)
If I leave my garage door open, the mice come in and set up shop. Takes a couple weeks to trap them all. Sometimes I even see them running in.

I don't leave the door open unattended even for 5 minutes.

Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by matsemann on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @04:08PM (#32256130)
Never heard of a break in in the city my family is from. No one ever locks their doors. It's one of the nice things about a society where most people get the help they need, no need for people to do these crimes to survive.
Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by greggman3 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @01:48PM (#32253823)
I grew up in suburbs and we used to leave our garage door open often up until day our bikes were stolen out of it.
Re:Fake Dog for Home Security by bluedino on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:11PM (#32254238)
They're also easy targets for people to break in during the day while people are at work.

I chased a person out of my garage in broad daylight who ended up being a porch pirate.