Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant
by tdub311 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @10:53AM
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Do the thermostats have cameras in them?
Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant
by elil17 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @11:13AM
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They have occupancy sensors (not cameras), but those can still be used for surveillance.
Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant
by entropie on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @11:54AM
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Iam not sure. That means that it has to log every triggered sensor.
I only have nest protect (stove heating) with occupancy sensor/pathlight and I really dont think it will record motion events nor submit them later (while connected). Could be wrong.
Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant
by elil17 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @01:10PM
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For nest thermostats, they advertise that their cloud based algorithm uses your phone location and occupancy sensor data to switch between “home” and “away” set points, so they have to be sending the sensor readings to the cloud. From there I can’t understand why they wouldn’t log those.
Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant
by hedora on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @12:52PM
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The occupancy sensors include wifi and bluetooth.
Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant
by core-utility on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @10:55AM
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I have no direct experience, but every time I see Illinois mentioned on commentary (HN, reddit, etc.) it's always surrounding corruption.
Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant
by ocdtrekkie on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @11:01AM
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Illinois actually has some of the strongest privacy legislation in the country. I got a $350 check from Facebook for running facial recognition on my photo without permission, and Google owes me a similar amount when it's class action gets approved.
Check out the Illinois BIPA, it's the reason tech companies are trying to get federal privacy legislation that preempts state law.
Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant
by solardev on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @11:00AM
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FWIW, Illinois sometimes does crazy things the other way too. They banned facial recognition altogether, so Nest (and other cameras) can't offer the "familiar faces" feature, like to not alert you when a spouse comes home instead of a stranger.
Facebook also paid me several hundred dollars because they were auto tagging faces for Illinois users.
Re:Google’s Nest will provide data to police without a warrant
by 999900000999 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @11:42AM
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You haven't seen my comments praising Chicago ?
The friendliest city I've ever lived, amazing public transit and where I met my first real girlfriend.
Recall at the time I mentioned to friends… I bet police get direct access and within 5 years, here we are lol
Many utility companies still do https://themoneyninja.com/free-google-nest-thermostat/