New York City Is a Lot Safer Than Small-Town America

Re:New York City Is a Lot Safer Than Small-Town America by pandaman on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @08:36AM (#32249690)

4 homicides already this year and it's not even August? I read on HN that between 1990 and 2003 there had been just 10 homicides in the very same subway and it allegedly had been much more dangerous in that period of time [1]. Seeing that the population only grew by ~15% since 1990 it looks like a huge increase in murder rate. What's going on there?

1.https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32223533

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Re:New York City Is a Lot Safer Than Small-Town America by woodruffw on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @08:51AM (#32249808)

Subway crime rates have risen substantially in the last two years; it remains to be seen whether that’ll become a long-term trend. In particular, as ridership numbers return to normal, the rate seems to be going down.

Even with the 2022 rise, the subway remains substantially safer than any other form of transit.

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Re:New York City Is a Lot Safer Than Small-Town America by pandaman on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @09:11AM (#32249983)

>Even with the 2022 rise, the subway remains substantially safer than any other form of transit.

By miles traveled or by the total number of deaths occurred while traveling?

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Re:New York City Is a Lot Safer Than Small-Town America by woodruffw on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @09:40AM (#32250266)

Both. The subway is safer by these four metrics:

* Number of deaths, miles traveled

* Number of deaths, per capita commuter

* Number of deaths from violent crime or negligence, miles traveled

* Number of deaths from violent crime or negligence, per capita commuter

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Re:New York City Is a Lot Safer Than Small-Town America by pandaman on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @10:31AM (#32250826)

So, to be safer than 0.07 death per billion miles in air travel and still have at least 4 death (there might be more deaths from other causes) and assuming nobody will die the rest of the year, also given 3M daily commuters from your numbers it appears the average commute in NYC subway is more than 52 miles?

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Re:New York City Is a Lot Safer Than Small-Town America by woodruffw on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @10:32AM (#32250836)

What's the point of being intentionally obtuse? We're talking about commuter transit, which doesn't include airplanes.

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Re:New York City Is a Lot Safer Than Small-Town America by pandaman on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @10:38AM (#32250925)

I read what you wrote, I cannot read your mind, sorry about that.

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