Re:Sonnet for Dennis Ritchie
by diiq on Friday November 11, 2011 @10:27AM
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I clicked the link with my spine pre-cringed, ready for cheesy hacker poetry. Instead I found a lovingly crafted epitaph in stylish, uninterrupted verse. I immediately looked to see the other poetry. I was shocked that there were only two others posted --- I refuse to believe that someone who wrote this and The Little Bank of San Pietro dei Fiumi (also beautiful) has only written three poems. Post more, Mister Jorgensen!
Re:Sonnet for Dennis Ritchie
by tomheon on Friday November 11, 2011 @12:46PM
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So glad you enjoyed this, and "The Little Bank"! I just started the process of moving things out of the drawer and onto the site. There's a big backlog but I'm posting every week or two to avoid a "verse bomb" effect. However there's an RSS feed if you're interested.
Thanks again for the response. It's great to see that there are other hackers out there interested in poetry.
Re:Sonnet for Dennis Ritchie
by p4bl0 on Friday November 11, 2011 @10:40AM
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TIL that an english sonnet is not at all the same thing as a french one (I was confused at first, because in french a sonnet is a very strict form of poetry, which is not respected at all here). So thanks for that, and beautiful text, by the way :-).
Re:Sonnet for Dennis Ritchie
by diiq on Friday November 11, 2011 @12:02PM
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Both forms are pretty strict, but yeah, the French gets a little less leeway. He is respecting the English rules, while using some chic slant rhymes. I know English is abab cdcd efef gg --- am I right in remembering French as abba abba cc dccd?
Re:Sonnet for Dennis Ritchie
by p4bl0 on Friday November 11, 2011 @04:22PM
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French sonnets must recpect the following two rules:
- rhymes are abba abba ccd eed
- lines must be Alexandrine
This last rules implies a lot of things :
- each lines must be exactly 12 syllabes
- the caesura (either between the sixth and seventh syllabes (for two hemistiches lines), or between the forth and fifth and between the eighth and nineth (for three parts lines)) must respect a lot of rules which makes it pleasant to read (for instance, the syllabe just before it cannot be feminine (roughly, it means it should not end with a 'e', but it's a lot more complex than that))
- rhyme genre must alternate (either a and d and feminine and b, c and e are masculine or the reverse)
- maybe some other nasty things I don't recall right now.
Re:Sonnet for Dennis Ritchie
by diiq on Friday November 11, 2011 @06:47PM
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Thanks for setting me straight! Where did you learn these rules? I went hunting and couldn't find much --- not even agreement on the rhymes for the quatrain (which you imply isn't a quatrain at all?).
Re:Sonnet for Dennis Ritchie
by p4bl0 on Saturday November 12, 2011 @03:57AM
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The end can be in 'cc deed' but it is quite uncommon. Usually, the first two strophes (does that word exists in english?) are quatrains and the two other are tercets.
I learned some of that in middleschol or highschool (in France) and for a few details by reading the french Wikipedia. But more importantly I have a friend who is very knowledgeable on this kind of subjects (a3_nm here on HN), which is really cool.
Re:Sonnet for Dennis Ritchie
by danso on Friday November 11, 2011 @09:36AM
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I wasn't sure if "Steve Jacks" was an admirer or some clueless middle manager at a newspaper meeting not wanting to talk about "C" because everyone is running "PCs" these days.
Thanks again for the response. It's great to see that there are other hackers out there interested in poetry.
I also just bought your book; I'm looking forward to it.
Your ghost performs the world’s computation."
Beautiful!
- rhymes are abba abba ccd eed
- lines must be Alexandrine
This last rules implies a lot of things :
- each lines must be exactly 12 syllabes
- the caesura (either between the sixth and seventh syllabes (for two hemistiches lines), or between the forth and fifth and between the eighth and nineth (for three parts lines)) must respect a lot of rules which makes it pleasant to read (for instance, the syllabe just before it cannot be feminine (roughly, it means it should not end with a 'e', but it's a lot more complex than that))
- rhyme genre must alternate (either a and d and feminine and b, c and e are masculine or the reverse)
- maybe some other nasty things I don't recall right now.
I learned some of that in middleschol or highschool (in France) and for a few details by reading the french Wikipedia. But more importantly I have a friend who is very knowledgeable on this kind of subjects (a3_nm here on HN), which is really cool.
But here's his original letter: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-10-18/news/chi-11101...
Someone brought up a similar point in comments on the poem itself--I added a direct link in the attribution.