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Re:I think that ghostbanning is unethical by mah4k4l on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @04:01AM (#32235577)
> I haven't seen HN use shadowbanning to censor anyone.

Maybe it was the ones you didn't see? Bacause they were shadowbanned?

My post was about ethics, trying to be formal and simple about the question what is it to do the right thing. Basically it was about this: sometimes good is right, sometimes evil is right, so good can be wrong and evil can be right, and we have four things of which the main question is the question of right and wrong.

I wouldn't consider myself to be a "toxic personality" but being ghostbanned did piss me off a little. More than pacify me. I am pointing out a real ethical issue, not "escalating my bad behavior" by posting this comment is how I see it.

[Edit:]I love HN, it's one of the best sites I know. I'm just pointing out an aspect of it that I don't like. I might use different language now that I'm not as pissed anymore, but I would post it.

Re:I think that ghostbanning is unethical by true_religion on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @04:17AM (#32235678)
Shadow banned people on HN just have their comments automatically killed. If you have showdead on, you still see their comments.
Re:I think that ghostbanning is unethical by mah4k4l on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @04:36AM (#32235788)
Thanks for the advice; just put mine on. The world of the dead fascinates me.
Re:I think that ghostbanning is unethical by tmaly on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @08:13AM (#32237219)
I like dead posts. Always interesting to see what offends people.
Re:I think that ghostbanning is unethical by tunap on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @09:51AM (#32238258)
I did not know this option exists. Thanks. Maybe.
Re:I think that ghostbanning is unethical by smt88 on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @04:41PM (#32243698)
> I wouldn't consider myself to be a "toxic personality" but being ghostbanned did piss me off a little.

Being pissed off is a very reasonable emotion to being shadowbanned.

I'm sure you don't consider yourself toxic, but it's possible you were posting things that trolls or shills often post, and that resulted in you getting banned.

For example, there may be people astroturfing anti-vaccine misinformation on this site. Given public opinion polls and the revelations about all the money that goes into that movement, it's likely most anti-vaccine activism on the internet is made up of bots and paid astroturfers.

But if you're someone who genuinely believes the conspiracy theories, a site may end up banning you because you're indistinguishable from people are not sincere and not acting in good faith.

Any filter is going to have false positives, but that doesn't mean we should throw out the filter.