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Re:Save the Soil by indianmouse on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @12:42AM (#32234316)
Wow! One of the biggest con man has made it to HN as well?

He is commoditizing soil and has found a new way to make money.

For those who really worry about soil and the facts spoken or presented by him, it is a total garbage and it done purely as a publicity stunt so that people will start buying the so called blessed soil from him (??).

Buying the blessed soil (whose soil is it anyway?) will save the soil from degrading? Poeple get to buy some soil samples blessed (!!??) by this conman and keep it in their homes and expect the soil is saved while he happily walks towards the bank laughing about people's stupidity!!!

Really??

One has to blame everyone in the entire process. Not just the use of chemical fertilizers. Greed driven by demand, corporatization of essential commodities, globalization of govts and pure profit based approach is making the life on this beautiful planet a deteriorating hell! Sooner or later, it will become like the scenes of Wall-E movie where people abandon the planet and start to wander around for a better quality of life albeit with some differences.

The propaganda should have been to stop using chemicals and pesticides, move towards organic method of farming and educating people about sustainable living and introducing technology guidance, reducing dependencies and a changed economic models... But it all sounds like Utopian wishes and might never come true on this godforsaken planet with the current set of population and people's mindset...

HN is a fantastic community with great minds wandering across multitude of topics and I hope they don't buy into this BS!!!

Re:Save the Soil by vmurthy on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @02:48AM (#32235171)
> Wow! One of the biggest con man has made it to HN as well?

Leaving aside whether you believe what he says, any citations on being a con man? Let alone the biggest con man?

>For those who really worry about soil and the facts spoken or presented by him, it is a total garbage and it done purely as a publicity stunt so that people will start buying the so called blessed soil from him (??).

Oh wow. That seems like the biggest publicity stunt, then , no? If heads of state are buying into this, this must be a very sophisticated plan.

> Buying the blessed soil (whose soil is it anyway?) will save the soil from degrading? Poeple get to buy some soil samples blessed (!!??) by this conman and keep it in their homes and expect the soil is saved while he happily walks towards the bank laughing about people's stupidity!!!

I didn't see a buy link in the web archive (the link is HN'ed), but perhaps you could enlighten us what you think he does with the money?

> educating people about sustainable living and introducing technology guidance, reducing dependencies and a changed economic models

You hit the nail on the head. This article seems to be about educating people about sustainable living and the dangers we humans pose to nature. Geniunely curious , what exactly are you so upset about? Sadhguru's teachings ? His article? Hidden agendas ?

Re:Save the Soil by indianmouse on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @03:34AM (#32235429)
Jaggi's truth for the people to read and understand about how the conman (the biggest of all with the blessings of the ruling party) built the colossal wealth.

If you have enough money and political support, you could pretty much do anything in this world!

https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/05/19/2021/05/17/how-sadhgu...

https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/05/19/2021/05/18/propped-by...

https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/05/19/trick-of-the-trade-ho...

Re:Save the Soil by amriksohata on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @03:53PM (#32243101)
newslaundry is hardly a valid source, the name of it already suggests its dirty news! they are a weird and anti-environment news source
Re:Save the Soil by unmole on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:26AM (#32247443)
> they are a weird and anti-environment news source

This is a bizzare assertion that's trivially disproved. Just searching for 'environment' on Newslaundry brings up articles hilighting environmental destruction and advocating conservation:

https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/03/04/india-faces-an-enviro...

https://www.newslaundry.com/2017/03/07/how-deadly-is-the-env...

https://www.newslaundry.com/2020/04/23/its-possible-to-have-...

https://www.newslaundry.com/2019/12/18/the-western-paradigm-...

It's Jaggi Vasudev who is a fucking charlatan.

Re:Save the Soil by mdp2021 on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @03:35AM (#32235435)
> stop using chemicals and pesticides, move towards organic method of farming

That implies an 8x increase in costs, I heard in the past few days (cannot remember the source now).

So: realistically - i.e. taking into consideration game theory on political and economical [game] rules?

Re:Save the Soil by mah4k4l on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @06:55AM (#32236633)
Maybe massive move to hydroponic farming done on sea rafts or something. Or on those whirling space stations with artificial gravity . 3d - printing food (if you believe in bioenergies first print some living tissue then kill it u done) is an option. Harvesting plankton is an option. Cultivating airborne plankton and such for protein is an option.

The guy is right (I know nothing about the guy himself): if the current trend continues we're left with desertation. We need soil - producing agriculture and the current one is soil - destroying. It doesn't need to be economically viable in itself. It could be subsidized for common interest by the public sector.

Re:Save the Soil by amriksohata on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @03:51PM (#32243077)
What nonsense, this man is well known, respected, what quantifies a con man? He is trying to save the environment. What a silly comment.
Re:Save the Soil by unmole on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:49AM (#32247572)
Forget respect. It's hard to take this clown seriously considering he's previously said things like:

- Children should not be vaccinated for flu[0]

- Depression is caused by overeating and lack of exercise[1]

- Mercury can be solidified by energizing it and is not toxic[2]

- Food turns to poison during an eclipse[3]

- Cancer is not a disease[4]

Like Save the Rivers and Cauvery Calling this is yet another PR campaign by Jaggi Vasudev.

0: https://web.archive.org/web/20200420202043/https://isha.sadh...

1: https://twitter.com/SadhguruJV/status/789658881135960064

2: https://isha.sadhguru.org/in/en/sadhguru/mystic/rasa-vaidya

3: https://www.thestatesman.com/world/lunar-eclipse-2018-what-s...

4: https://twitter.com/SadhguruJV/status/827780767010807809

Re:Save the Soil by earljman on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @01:29AM (#32234622)
Why are you in so much pain?
Re:Save the Soil by indianmouse on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @03:36AM (#32235436)
Because of various reasons that requires privacy and security. You never know how these goons operate. They will hunt and haunt you. There is no freedom of speech in this country. They'll simply kill you. Period.