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Re:Why are McDonald’s Self Service Kiosks so hackable? by aerostable_slug on Monday July 25, 2022 @04:56PM (#32230812)
This is fundamentally incorrect.

Sniffing the NFC traffic gives the attacker nothing useful, just as skimming an EMV contact transaction gives the attacker nothing useful.

>The contactless EMV chip transaction path leverages the cryptographic functions normally associated with a contact EMV chip transaction and uses the same authorization and settlement fields as a contact chip transaction. [0] [1]

[0]: https://www.emv-connection.com/downloads/2015/12/EMV-and-NFC...

[1]: See EMV specifications, “Book 2 – Security and Key Management,” Version 4.3, November, 2011, http://www.emvco.com/specifications.aspx?id=223.

Re:Why are McDonald’s Self Service Kiosks so hackable? by tjoff on Monday July 25, 2022 @05:50PM (#32231392)
Why would you need to sniff anything?

Just ask for it yourself. That's what I meant with encryption not meaning jack if you are one of the participants.